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Old 10-11-2012, 04:49 PM   #1
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Guys, you can inhale from the magic bong all you want, but Peyton Mannings don't come along very often.

What is far more common is a situation in which a young quarterback has to be developed ... acclimated ... for awhile. How many times have we seen quarterbacks with high potential eventually bust because they were improperly handled in the beginning?

Sure, it's possible that you can strike gold with a rookie QB who requires no coaching or mentoring or assistance in making the adjustment to the NFL, but ... wow ... unlikely would be an understatement.

Let's be realistic for a moment. It makes far more sense to install a coach who can help a young guy develop ... regardless of his initial talent level or skill ... than simply hope that we hit on a Manning.

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No one is saying they require no coaching.

Let me put it like this:

Some students have a hard time understanding Algebra.

You can explain an equation to Matt over, and over and over again. His tutor can explain it over, and over and over again.

And on Test day, Matt still hasn't figured it out.

Now, that same teacher can explain that algebra problem to Andrew just once, and Andrew has it down. Now, over the course of the next 16 tests, new formulas will have to be explained, but it won't take long for Andrew to figure them out, he'll just need some practice since these tests are constantly throwing new and exotic equations at him.

Eventually, because of Andrews acute ability to solve math problems, he'll get it all down.

Matt on the other hand.....well....16 tests into the course, and he's still struggling with that first equation.

We need an Andrew.

Not a Matt.

And there are plenty of Andrews in the NFL. There might be only one Peyton, but plenty of Andrews.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:49 PM   #2
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No one is saying they require no coaching.

Let me put it like this:

Some students have a hard time understanding Algebra.

You can explain an equation to Matt over, and over and over again. His tutor can explain it over, and over and over again.

And on Test day, Matt still hasn't figured it out.

Now, that same teacher can explain that algebra problem to Andrew just once, and Andrew has it down. Now, over the course of the next 16 tests, new formulas will have to be explained, but it won't take long for Andrew to figure them out, he'll just need some practice since these tests are constantly throwing new and exotic equations at him.

Eventually, because of Andrews acute ability to solve math problems, he'll get it all down.

Matt on the other hand.....well....16 tests into the course, and he's still struggling with that first equation.

We need an Andrew.

Not a Matt.

And there are plenty of Andrews in the NFL. There might be only one Peyton, but plenty of Andrews.
Okay. Sold.

Pass the magic bong.

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Old 10-11-2012, 05:20 PM   #3
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Guys, you can inhale from the magic bong all you want, but Peyton Mannings don't come along very often.

What is far more common is a situation in which a young quarterback has to be developed ... acclimated ... for awhile. How many times have we seen quarterbacks with high potential eventually bust because they were improperly handled in the beginning?

Sure, it's possible that you can strike gold with a rookie QB who requires no coaching or mentoring or assistance in making the adjustment to the NFL, but ... wow ... unlikely would be an understatement.

Let's be realistic for a moment. It makes far more sense to install a coach who can help a young guy develop ... regardless of his initial talent level or skill ... than simply hope that we hit on a Manning.

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Romeo should be fired because he's a terrible head coach, not because there are far better QB gurus for Geno Smith to learn from.

If Romeo didn't suck as much as he did, I would be perfectly fine with him being the guy.
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Old 10-11-2012, 05:51 PM   #4
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Romeo should be fired because he's a terrible head coach, not because there are far better QB gurus for Geno Smith to learn from.

If Romeo didn't suck as much as he did, I would be perfectly fine with him being the guy.
Hmmm ...

I have to say that a high-value rookie quarterback deserves a high-value head coach who can help teach him the Algebra stuff.

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Is Pioli Clark's Cassel?

Perhaps there's some degree of ego in this.

Clark doesn't want to be wrong about Pioli.
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:48 PM   #6
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Is Pioli Clark's Cassel?

Perhaps there's some degree of ego in this.

Clark doesn't want to be wrong about Pioli.
How do we know Clark isn't just trying to walk in the path of his father? Lamar put up with all kinds of bullshit for YEARS with this front office. I think we as fans tend to give Lamar the benefit of the doubt, though. He was the team's founder and really awesome to the fans for the entire run.

What's the difference between him and Clark? Is Clark just a cheapass because he doesn't live in Kansas City and hardly ever interacts with the team or community? Or is he loyal to a fault like his father was to Jack Steadman and Carl Peterson?
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Old 10-11-2012, 04:58 PM   #7
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how can you fail at everything and be rewarded?

you save money for a cheap ass bastard like Clark who only cares about money...shove your cash cap up your ass

he hired two failed coaches
the staff is comprised of losers
he wasted 4 years on Matt Cassel
after 4 years, our QB roster reads like a sick joke: Cassel, Quinn, Panzi
Tyson Jackson
he hates the fans...this can not be said enough - HE HATES THE FANS
clark has sanctioned pioli's hatred of us by re-signing him
the fans hate this ****ing shit eating franchise because of scott pioli
no one with an ounce of pride will work for a micro-managing, arrogant, prick failure
our team blows yaks

just like the acquisition of Cassel meant that the next 4 years were over before they happened, the re-signing of pioli means the same...whatever the length of his contract, that is already a period of failure for the chiefs

jesus this is depressing...we are ****ed in the ass
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This is crap. Absolute crap.

Remember the conversation about how people should just go tailgate out at the stadium but not go in to go watch the game? Bully idea. That will be my stance with these pissants until Pioli and his guys are out the front door.
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This is crap. Absolute crap.

Remember the conversation about how people should just go tailgate out at the stadium but not go in to go watch the game? Bully idea. That will be my stance with these pissants until Pioli and his guys are out the front door.
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Nope, while you are outside partying some dumbass will be eating hot dogs buying Cassel jerseys
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My buddy scored me free club seats to the Ravens game. I won't even do that from here on out, as I might drop a few bucks on food and beverages.

Parking costs. That is as much as I'm willing to spend on this heartbreaking team.
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My buddy scored me free club seats to the Ravens game. I won't even do that from here on out, as I might drop a few bucks on food and beverages.

Parking costs. That is as much as I'm willing to spend on this heartbreaking team.
Screw that put towards the cause instead.
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Ok, everyone step back from the ledge until this is actually confirmed.
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Ok, everyone step back from the ledge until this is actually confirmed.
True. But from what you know of this team from the years you've follwed it, do you believe for a second that Pioli has NOT been extended?
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