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Old 01-28-2019, 08:02 PM   #1
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That’s not a bad thought dj

But say one of those offensive guys is there at our pick. Say, Noah Fant.

Would you take him?
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Old 01-29-2019, 10:38 AM   #2
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That’s not a bad thought dj

But say one of those offensive guys is there at our pick. Say, Noah Fant.

Would you take him?
Don't we already have that thread somewhere? Yeah, I'd consider an offensive pick but it would have to be a particularly bare board for me to do it.

Regarding Fant specifically, I'm not sure he's even my favorite TE from Iowa this year. Hockenson has a higher ceiling, IMO. Fant may be more likely to become a Kelce sort of player; mostly a gigantic WR, but Hockenson could end up being a far better in-line TE and thus a way better fit with Kelce already in the fold.

It's funny how fast the top end of the TE class developed in this draft. Smith, Fant and Hockenson are all guys who could easily be 1st round picks. Albert O staying at Mizzou another year suddenly makes a lot more sense to me coming off his injury (and had he not gotten hurt, I think there would've been 4 legit potential 1st round TEs in this class).
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Old 01-29-2019, 10:47 AM   #3
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Don't we already have that thread somewhere? Yeah, I'd consider an offensive pick but it would have to be a particularly bare board for me to do it.

Regarding Fant specifically, I'm not sure he's even my favorite TE from Iowa this year. Hockenson has a higher ceiling, IMO. Fant may be more likely to become a Kelce sort of player; mostly a gigantic WR, but Hockenson could end up being a far better in-line TE and thus a way better fit with Kelce already in the fold.

It's funny how fast the top end of the TE class developed in this draft. Smith, Fant and Hockenson are all guys who could easily be 1st round picks. Albert O staying at Mizzou another year suddenly makes a lot more sense to me coming off his injury (and had he not gotten hurt, I think there would've been 4 legit potential 1st round TEs in this class).
Yeah, Hockenson makes sense too.

Its not my preferred way to go. But it's a potential way to make a strength stronger.
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:18 PM   #4
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Don't we already have that thread somewhere? Yeah, I'd consider an offensive pick but it would have to be a particularly bare board for me to do it.

Regarding Fant specifically, I'm not sure he's even my favorite TE from Iowa this year. Hockenson has a higher ceiling, IMO. Fant may be more likely to become a Kelce sort of player; mostly a gigantic WR, but Hockenson could end up being a far better in-line TE and thus a way better fit with Kelce already in the fold.

It's funny how fast the top end of the TE class developed in this draft. Smith, Fant and Hockenson are all guys who could easily be 1st round picks. Albert O staying at Mizzou another year suddenly makes a lot more sense to me coming off his injury (and had he not gotten hurt, I think there would've been 4 legit potential 1st round TEs in this class).
Hockenson just doesn't have the overall pedigree, particularly measurables, that Fant has. Hockenson is a dynamic player but he's more of an H-back. Fant has the ability to be Travis Kelce.

For this team, Hockenson might make more sense as a complimentary piece but if you want a complete, top-tier tight end for the next 10 years, one that can do everything well, that guy is Noah Fant IMO.
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Old 01-29-2019, 02:11 PM   #5
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Hockenson just doesn't have the overall pedigree, particularly measurables, that Fant has. Hockenson is a dynamic player but he's more of an H-back. Fant has the ability to be Travis Kelce.

For this team, Hockenson might make more sense as a complimentary piece but if you want a complete, top-tier tight end for the next 10 years, one that can do everything well, that guy is Noah Fant IMO.
See I view Fant as more of the H-back type and Hockenson as a far better long-term blocker and in-line player.

I'd take Irv Smith over either of them though...
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Old 01-29-2019, 12:15 PM   #6
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That’s not a bad thought dj

But say one of those offensive guys is there at our pick. Say, Noah Fant.

Would you take him?
If Fant were there, I think you'd have to consider it. He has the potential to be great. There's really no gaps in his game. He's long, runs good routes, blocks well, he's a prototypical TE.

That being said, I really want a DB in the first. Adderley is my pick but I like Baker a lot too.
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If Fant were there, I think you'd have to consider it. He has the potential to be great. There's really no gaps in his game. He's long, runs good routes, blocks well, he's a prototypical TE.

That being said, I really want a DB in the first. Adderley is my pick but I like Baker a lot too.
I'm at the point where I don't really care who it is, as long as it's a good player and not some crazy project.

Ideally it's a CB or a LB'er or safety. But if some top of the line prospect falls because other teams are stupid, pounce on him.
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I'm at the point where I don't really care who it is, as long as it's a good player and not some crazy project.

Ideally it's a CB or a LB'er or safety. But if some top of the line prospect falls because other teams are stupid, pounce on him.
I don't really want to see them take an ILB early. And definitely not on board with spending high picks on offensive line or RB.

Other than that, I'm down for about anything. Would could use DL, DE, LB, S, CB, WR, TE in about any combination.
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I don't really want to see them take an ILB early. And definitely not on board with spending high picks on offensive line or RB.

Other than that, I'm down for about anything. Would could use DL, DE, LB, S, CB, WR, TE in about any combination.
I'd be good with an ILB because I think that's the premium spot on defenses these days in order for the d to be good.
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I'd be good with an ILB because I think that's the premium spot on defenses these days in order for the d to be good.
They have a pretty big cap hit wrapped up in Hitchens though and I think he plays inside.
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They have a pretty big cap hit wrapped up in Hitchens though and I think he plays inside.
Maybe

But I'd prefer to see him and DOD outside with a draft pick inside.
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That’s not a bad thought dj

But say one of those offensive guys is there at our pick. Say, Noah Fant.

Would you take him?
I watched the AFCCG again and I really think if we had Kareem Hunt, we would have scored in the first half. Patriots didn’t care about our rushing attack bc it want good. I like Damien Williams, but he’s best suited as a 3rd down back.

Think we all agree that the focus is helping our pieces around Mahomes. I think those pieces should revolve around stopping the run and running the ball.

Doubtful it happens, but I would definitely consider Josh Jacobs at 29 assuming that the board is bare bc all of the defensive players we want are gone.
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I watched the AFCCG again and I really think if we had Kareem Hunt, we would have scored in the first half. Patriots didn’t care about our rushing attack bc it want good. I like Damien Williams, but he’s best suited as a 3rd down back.

Think we all agree that the focus is helping our pieces around Mahomes. I think those pieces should revolve around stopping the run and running the ball.

Doubtful it happens, but I would definitely consider Josh Jacobs at 29 assuming that the board is bare bc all of the defensive players we want are gone.
I wouldn't take him there even if everyone was gone. It's just not valuable enough.

I think Williams is a good RB option, screen game, etc. But he's not really a tackle breaking dude like Hunt was. They need that.
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