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Old 09-19-2017, 01:08 PM  
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Los Angeles Doesn't Care About The Chargers
Barry Petchesky
Yesterday 9:07am

Sunday saw the return of the Los Angeles Chargers, their first home game since 1960, and no one’s very excited about it.

New and relocated teams usually get a first-year attendance bump, just from the novelty. The Chargers are a good team with an offense that’s fun to watch. Their temporary home, a soccer-specific stadium, is intimate and unique. There are plenty of reasons the Chargers might draw a good crowd. None of those reasons, apparently, are enough to overcome the hard realties of deep, deep disinterest:




A stadium that seats 27,000 couldn’t sell out, drawing an officially (generously) announced crowd of 25,381 for a 19-17 loss to the Dolphins. Making that attendance figure even sadder is that half of paying fans weren’t there to see the Chargers. “There were a lot of Miami fans out there,” Melvin Gordon said. “I think it was around 50-50.”

Including, perhaps, the person in charge of setting off the cannon after Chargers scores. Listen for the boom as Younghoe Koo missed a 44-yarder that would’ve won the game:




You’ll also hear a lot of cheers in that video. Those are the Dolphins fans, and they confused Philip Rivers all afternoon:

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“I heard the roar before I saw the official’s signal,” Rivers said. “I wasn’t sure which roar it was.”
Well, and why not? The Chargers have done everything in their power to alienate their old fan base (a plane towed a banner over the stadium calling Dean Spanos the worst owner in sports), and little to cultivate a new fan base. They fled San Diego three full seasons before their new stadium will be ready, and in the meantime they’re charging $100 for parking. They’re already second fiddle in their new city, a subordination that will be even more marked once they move in with the Rams. Philip Rivers said the team needs to win and it’ll see better attendance, but Los Angeles isn’t exactly tabula rasa for fandom. There are a lot of people from all over, with their own rooting interests, and a strong strain of Raiders fandom runs through the city, and any fans excited for a new team probably jumped aboard with the Rams last year. In short, it is difficult to picture a combination of circumstances and sensibilities that would lead a person to becoming a Los Angeles Chargers fan.

Let’s be clear: None of this is an indictment of those Chargers fans that exist or of Angelenos. You’re under no obligations to go to games, and considering how much better television is than the live NFL experience, the incentives are already slim. The NFL is a business, and if people aren’t consuming a product, that’s a sign of a failure of the company to offer a product people want to consume. And, potentially, a fatal misread of the market. Could it be possible, after the NFL spent decades using Los Angeles as a threat to strong-arm cities into building stadiums to keep their teams, that Los Angeles didn’t actually want its own team, let alone two? It’s still very early, but:
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Old 09-19-2017, 01:45 PM   #16
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Chargers drawing 20k, mostly road fans, and playing in a soccer stadium.

Rams can't fill their stadium to 50% giving tickets away.

49ers play in front of an empty stadium.

Raiders are leaving a dump of a city/stadium for another state entirely.

40 million people and "the world's 6th largest economy", we're always told... and CA can't support 1 NFL team.
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I kind of hope both the Rams and Chargers fail miserably and are looking for a new home in 5 years.
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Old 09-19-2017, 01:53 PM   #18
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Chargers drawing 20k, mostly road fans, and playing in a soccer stadium.

Rams can't fill their stadium to 50% giving tickets away.

49ers play in front of an empty stadium.

Raiders are leaving a dump of a city/stadium for another state entirely.

40 million people and "the world's 6th largest economy", we're always told... and CA can't support 1 NFL team.
People in Los Angeles don't want to waste their Sunday by sitting in a 95 year old stadium while watching shitty football.

Levi's Stadium is supposedly a joke. There's no shade and therefore, no protection from the sun and heat.
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:08 PM   #19
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Spanos should just sell the team...he's ruined it. There is no going back now...
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:27 PM   #20
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Spanos should just sell the team...he's ruined it. There is no going back now...
I think they moved to LA because they thought that the Franchise Value would rise significantly, making for a bigger sale.

Unfortunately for the Spanos family, the value only increased a few million dollars, according to Forbes, whereas the Rams value doubled.
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:41 PM   #21
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No chance the Chargers move back without a change at ownership. The city wouldn't cut the Spanos any deal at all, the owners don't want to forego the relocation funds and they don't even have the money to build a stadium.
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:42 PM   #22
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Chargers should look at putting their NFL team in one of these cities. They would surely draw more fans than San Diego or LA.
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Memphis would be good but a lot of Arkansas is cowboys country and I doubt jerry would go for that
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Old 09-19-2017, 02:50 PM   #24
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Chargers should look at putting their NFL team in one of these cities. They would surely draw more fans than San Diego or LA.


OKC wouldn't fly. NFL can't compete with OU/OSU. Not enough money to go around.




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Memphis would be good but a lot of Arkansas is cowboys country and I doubt jerry would go for that
Jerry is definitely against San Antonio and I'm sure the Adams family would be against Memphis.

Jerry also might fight against Oklahoma City and claim that as his territory as well.

The best solution is for the Chargers to return to San Diego but if that can't happen, sharing a stadium with the 49ers makes more sense than staying in Los Angeles.
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Chargers should look at putting their NFL team in one of these cities. They would surely draw more fans than San Diego or LA.
Salt Lake City would be cool. I've also wondered what Portland, OR would do with an team.
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Salt Lake City would be cool. I've also wondered what Portland, OR would do with an team.
Portland's too "hipster" to host an NFL team.

Plus, the Seahawks reign supreme up there.
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STL had a pretty decent offer on the table for the Rams before they ran.
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Salt Lake City would be cool.
The SLC metro population is 1.1 million.

I seriously doubt they could support an NFL team.
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STL had a pretty decent offer on the table for the Rams before they ran.
Yeah but a move to St. Louis isn't going to increase the value of the franchise.

Most likely, it would plummet.
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