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Old 09-19-2017, 01:08 PM  
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Los Angeles Doesn't Care About The Chargers
Barry Petchesky
Yesterday 9:07am

Sunday saw the return of the Los Angeles Chargers, their first home game since 1960, and no one’s very excited about it.

New and relocated teams usually get a first-year attendance bump, just from the novelty. The Chargers are a good team with an offense that’s fun to watch. Their temporary home, a soccer-specific stadium, is intimate and unique. There are plenty of reasons the Chargers might draw a good crowd. None of those reasons, apparently, are enough to overcome the hard realties of deep, deep disinterest:




A stadium that seats 27,000 couldn’t sell out, drawing an officially (generously) announced crowd of 25,381 for a 19-17 loss to the Dolphins. Making that attendance figure even sadder is that half of paying fans weren’t there to see the Chargers. “There were a lot of Miami fans out there,” Melvin Gordon said. “I think it was around 50-50.”

Including, perhaps, the person in charge of setting off the cannon after Chargers scores. Listen for the boom as Younghoe Koo missed a 44-yarder that would’ve won the game:




You’ll also hear a lot of cheers in that video. Those are the Dolphins fans, and they confused Philip Rivers all afternoon:

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“I heard the roar before I saw the official’s signal,” Rivers said. “I wasn’t sure which roar it was.”
Well, and why not? The Chargers have done everything in their power to alienate their old fan base (a plane towed a banner over the stadium calling Dean Spanos the worst owner in sports), and little to cultivate a new fan base. They fled San Diego three full seasons before their new stadium will be ready, and in the meantime they’re charging $100 for parking. They’re already second fiddle in their new city, a subordination that will be even more marked once they move in with the Rams. Philip Rivers said the team needs to win and it’ll see better attendance, but Los Angeles isn’t exactly tabula rasa for fandom. There are a lot of people from all over, with their own rooting interests, and a strong strain of Raiders fandom runs through the city, and any fans excited for a new team probably jumped aboard with the Rams last year. In short, it is difficult to picture a combination of circumstances and sensibilities that would lead a person to becoming a Los Angeles Chargers fan.

Let’s be clear: None of this is an indictment of those Chargers fans that exist or of Angelenos. You’re under no obligations to go to games, and considering how much better television is than the live NFL experience, the incentives are already slim. The NFL is a business, and if people aren’t consuming a product, that’s a sign of a failure of the company to offer a product people want to consume. And, potentially, a fatal misread of the market. Could it be possible, after the NFL spent decades using Los Angeles as a threat to strong-arm cities into building stadiums to keep their teams, that Los Angeles didn’t actually want its own team, let alone two? It’s still very early, but:
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Old 09-19-2017, 03:38 PM   #46
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They have some sneaky money there though. Oil guys like Harold Hamm, Clay Bennet is another billionaire, T Boone Pickens is there as well. I think if they got their resources together they would do it.

It's a long shot, but I guarantee attendance would be significantly better in OKC than SD and LA combined. That is a big football state.
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Old 09-19-2017, 03:42 PM   #47
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They have some sneaky money there though. Oil guys like Harold Hamm, Clay Bennet is another billionaire, T Boone Pickens is there as well. I think if they got their resources together they would do it.



It's a long shot, but I guarantee attendance would be significantly better in OKC than SD and LA combined. That is a big football state.


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Old 09-19-2017, 04:37 PM   #48
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Old 09-19-2017, 05:35 PM   #49
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:33 PM   #50
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A real tragedy that they had to move. I always enjoyed going to the games while on vacation there. The light rail drops you off right at the gate, and it was a fun SoCal and fish taco atmosphere. They could even get loud at times.

But with terrible city management, terrible franchise management, and a stadium in disrepair, all of the cards had been played.
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:41 PM   #51
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Jerry is definitely against San Antonio and I'm sure the Adams family would be against Memphis.

Jerry also might fight against Oklahoma City and claim that as his territory as well.

The best solution is for the Chargers to return to San Diego but if that can't happen, sharing a stadium with the 49ers makes more sense than staying in Los Angeles.
I felt confident that if the Raiders would've moved to San Antonio area they would have done well. The proposed stadium site was between Austin and San Antonio, near New Braunfels.

It would have been easily accessible for fans from both cities, around 45 min away for most people along I35. There's enough football passion there, and the Raiders culture would've meshes well with Spurs culture. Gerald Jones be damned, they would've been fine.

But I'm sure they'll do well in Las Vegas as well.
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They should see if New Orleans wants another team so they can repurpose that "Fight for LA" thing.
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Old 09-19-2017, 10:59 PM   #53
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There's too much to do in LA for people to go watch a boring game.

I guarantee you that if the Rams or Chargers become good, the city will support the teams that are worth watching.

If Mahomes went to LA they would probably sell the stadium out in no time.
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A real tragedy that they had to move. I always enjoyed going to the games while on vacation there. The light rail drops you off right at the gate, and it was a fun SoCal and fish taco atmosphere. They could even get loud at times.

But with terrible city management, terrible franchise management, and a stadium in disrepair, all of the cards had been played.
Neatest thing about the whole game was the trolley ride into the stadium.
A lovely little stadium, Qualcomm was.
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None in Oklahoma. Just not enough fan interest with Dallas 2.5 hours down the road and most of western OK are broncos fans.

Boomer Sooner and Pistol Pete fans aren't going to give up their to support the NFL on a full time basis.


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What about Omaha? I know, I know, low population, blah blah. But there's a LOT of money in that town and a ton of football passion in the surrounding area. Would be interesting.
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None in Oklahoma. Just not enough fan interest with Dallas 2.5 hours down the road and most of western OK are broncos fans.

Boomer Sooner and Pistol Pete fans aren't going to give up their to support the NFL on a full time basis.


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What if - and I know this sounds crazy - what if they supported both??
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