Chiefs New DC not fixing this - Page 5

ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-21-2019, 08:21 PM

.@chiefs when you get “angle blocked” you can’t stay blocked. You have either feel it and play over the top or you have to spin to escape. But you CANNOT stay blocked. #BaldysBreakdowns pic.twitter.com/1XNlxBzPw2
— Brian Baldinger (@BaldyNFL) January 21, 2019

Smh

TEX · 01-22-2019, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Schnitzel

Statistically this was on of the worst defenses of all time, so there is not much downside anyway

That's so true. That's exactly why now is the time for change - even if means changing most everything on defense.

mcaj22 · 01-22-2019, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeF

It still doesn't change that our defensive line is losing the battle. We depended on DJ and Berry far too much for far too long.

DL is holding responsibility, yes they are getting pushed but the gaps are open. Hitchens waits for the center to come out and get him and then runs into the pulling guard. DJ would have shed that center or blown by him immediately and met White right at the LOS on the other side of Houston. That is literally what you pay an athletic MLBer premier top 5 money to DO.

TEX · 01-22-2019, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

DL is holding responsibility, yes they are getting pushed but the gaps are open. Hitchens waits for the center to come out and get him and then runs into the pulling guard. DJ would have shed that center or blown by him immediately and met White right at the LOS on the other side of Houston. That is literally what you pay an athletic MLBer premier top 5 money to DO.

Nailed it.

bowener · 01-22-2019, 08:22 AM

What is the likelihood Marvin Lewis ends up the DC for the Chiefs?

25% chance?

It needs to be Romo, though.

scho63 · 01-22-2019, 08:41 AM

In that clip, the Patriots used the Chief's defenders momentum to easily push them to the left as the play went right. Didn't take much strength. It's what they use in judo.

**Rausch** · 01-22-2019, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

Bob Sutton is a ****ing dumpster fire.

This.

Sutton finds a way to take the talent he does have and make it look bad.

Think about that.

**MahiMike** · 01-22-2019, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

They're older players that have already gotten paid...like it or not that plays in. Not everyone has the passion of like Ray Lewis and can always bring it...the guys that are suppose to be the leaders here don't.

Houston and Berry in particular.

Yup. Never give these guys long-term contracts. Ever.

**Rausch** · 01-22-2019, 09:00 AM

Anyone who says that Berry and Houston aren't true leaders on this team doesn't know the first ****ing thing about this team.

People close to the team or with access to the locker room or practice will tell you the exact opposite. In fact you don't have to look too hard to find a ton of podcasts where people reported just how much Houston was telling the team how seriously they need to take this and how they need to keep their mind on the goal.

Dr. Yu Weed Tard · 01-22-2019, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

So then why aren't they understanding fundamentals?

That's coaching.

That's on their position coaches...

Defensive coordinators at the NFL level don't teach fundamentals.

But these guys are soft. That's on the Head Coach who, btw, brought his own defensive position coach, his son, DL coach Britt Reid.

So...it's all on the guy in charge of the coaching staff, Andy Reid, the Head Coach.

Sutton is not, and never has been, 'the' problem.

**Rausch** · 01-22-2019, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Haglund's_Spirit

Coach.

Sutton is not, and never has been, 'the' problem.

I completely disagree and so do most people who are paid to comment on such matters.

Dr. Yu Weed Tard · 01-22-2019, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

DL is holding responsibility, yes they are getting pushed but the gaps are open. Hitchens waits for the center to come out and get him and then runs into the pulling guard. DJ would have shed that center or blown by him immediately and met White right at the LOS on the other side of Houston. That is literally what you pay an athletic MLBer premier top 5 money to DO.

And DJ was sitting in the stands. Again, that's on Andy Reid and Veach.

**LoneWolf** · 01-22-2019, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Haglund's_Spirit

And DJ was sitting in the stands. Again, that's on Andy Reid and Veach.

Your and idiot.

kcclone · 01-22-2019, 09:17 AM

It's funny how this debate has become so binary. It doesn't have to be an either/or question. Most likely, it's a little of both.

If Bob Sutton had better personnel, he could probably field a defense that doesn't finish ranked 31st.

On the flip side of the coin, a really good DC would have enough talent (on this current team) to have at least a top 20 Defense.

IMO, we need to change the DC AND focus on upgrading personnel. Frankly, you always have to look at upgrading personnel on defense because the shelf life of players is pretty short.

If we hire the right DC, and can upgrade at 2-3 different positions, we can become a top 15-20 defense.

If we're in that range, combined with our offense we will be right back in the AFC championship next year with a better chance to win.

**Rausch** · 01-22-2019, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Haglund's_Spirit

And DJ was sitting in the stands. Again, that's on Andy Reid and Veach.

No, that's on father time...

O.city · 01-22-2019, 09:18 AM

I refuse to believe that this is one of the worst defenses of all time because of the talent.

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kcclone Veteran Join Date: Jan 2014 Casino cash: $3674900	It's funny how this debate has become so binary. It doesn't have to be an either/or question. Most likely, it's a little of both. If Bob Sutton had better personnel, he could probably field a defense that doesn't finish ranked 31st. On the flip side of the coin, a really good DC would have enough talent (on this current team) to have at least a top 20 Defense. IMO, we need to change the DC AND focus on upgrading personnel. Frankly, you always have to look at upgrading personnel on defense because the shelf life of players is pretty short. If we hire the right DC, and can upgrade at 2-3 different positions, we can become a top 15-20 defense. If we're in that range, combined with our offense we will be right back in the AFC championship next year with a better chance to win.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2544064	I refuse to believe that this is one of the worst defenses of all time because of the talent.
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