***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[suzzer99]

Yes I'm sure the vaccine makers simply put their goods in the open market with a fixed price tag and no machinations or leverage behind the scenes was applied by the US govt.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Yep. Team USA did a good job of quickly paying up front to guarantee doses whether they worked or not. The EU didn't want to be on the hook if the vaccines didn't work out and that ended up costing them.

So good job team USA on that front.

Now given that those doses actually had to go into arms to do any good and that was clear six months ahead of time, team USA could have done a better job preparing for that.

But things are ramping up.

I don't think the logistics of handling a vaccine that needs to be kept in sub zero temperatures with a very short shelf life were known 6 months prior to the vaccine being approved.

Here is an article on the complexity.


https://www.chicagotribune.com/coron...htmlstory.html

[TLO]

Hospitalizations around here are creeping back up ever so slightly.

[RedRaider56]

Originally Posted by TLO

Hospitalizations around here are creeping back up ever so slightly.

You'll probably see a spike upwards in a couple of weeks after spring break as well.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by TLO

Hospitalizations around here are creeping back up ever so slightly.

For the first time since last spring out of our 800+ employees and family we have ZERO employees out on quarantine for any reason (family and kids) and we have ZERO positive cases.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TLO

Hospitalizations around here are creeping back up ever so slightly.

Yeah, just as they may vote to end the city wide mask mandate next Monday. Mother **** me.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by RedRaider56

You'll probably see a spike upwards in a couple of weeks after spring break as well.

Just like the Christmas spike?

[Rain Man]

An Indian vaccine is coming for your children:

https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSL4N2LD1FF

Excerpt:

Musunuri said COVAXIN had the potential to work against COVID-19 variants and Ocugen could initially focus on children as it was likely to be safe for those over the age of 12, while shots produced by other drugmakers targeted adults.

“Like a polio virus given to babies, this could be safe for all children, high-risk groups, pregnant women and people with comorbidities,” Musunuri said of COVAXIN.


I didn't even know India had a vaccine. They're hoping to get FDA approval in the USA in April.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I didn't even know India had a vaccine. They're hoping to get FDA approval in the USA in April.

Dude, get with the times. India has every pharmaceutical you could ever want, and they'll mail it to your house without a prescription.


www.alldaychemist.com

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by loochy

Dude, get with the times. India has every pharmaceutical you could ever want, and they'll mail it to your house without a prescription.


www.alldaychemist.com

Well, they usually only contact me when I'm about to get arrested by the Social Security Administration.

[dirk digler]

My coworker got the first dose of Moderna and was scheduled to get the 2nd does this week but sometime last week got Covid. Currently he has flu symptoms and high temp which started last night.

So much for one dose being protective.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

My coworker got the first dose of Moderna and was scheduled to get the 2nd does this week but sometime last week got Covid. Currently he has flu symptoms and high temp which started last night.

So much for one dose being protective.

Well we knew it wasn't 100% effective.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

Well we knew it wasn't 100% effective.

Yeah but there was alot of talk about doing only one dose to vaccinate more people because one dose was really good. I would have thought though even with one dose you wouldn't get sick but he has been bed ridden for 2 days so far. And he is a young guy in his 30's.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Yeah but there was alot of talk about doing only one dose to vaccinate more people because one dose was really good. I would have thought though even with one dose you wouldn't get sick but he has been bed ridden for 2 days so far. And he is a young guy in his 30's.

I hope he gets over it quickly. It really sucks for him because he was just a few weeks away from having even stronger immunity.

[chinaski]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Yeah but there was alot of talk about doing only one dose to vaccinate more people because one dose was really good. I would have thought though even with one dose you wouldn't get sick but he has been bed ridden for 2 days so far. And he is a young guy in his 30's.

Some data has specified that even if you get COVID after getting one dose, the severity of symptoms is reduced. Prayers for your friend.