Chiefs Bowe Should Be Starting - Page 6

Hammock Parties · 08-15-2009, 09:38 PM

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It’s time for the Chiefs to end their silly game with Dwayne Bowe.

In case you were actually doing something remotely entertaining and missed Saturday night’s Chiefs game, here’s the shocking news from Arrowhead Stadium – Dwayne Bowe didn’t start the game with the rest of KC’s first-team offense. Nope, the Chiefs trotted out a couple of NFL spares – Terrance Copper and Devard Darling - to complement Matt Cassel, Larry Johnson and Branden Albert.

The results, as predicted, were disappointing.

After zipping a precise 12-yard timing pattern to Copper on his first pass, Cassel’s second perfect throw was dropped (by Copper). Darling’s lone touch came on a doomed slip screen on a later third down. In about a half of football, Copper and Darling combined for two catches, 15 yards, and didn’t come close to scaring a defensive back or proving they actually deserve their “starting” jobs.

We probably shouldn’t be surprised. Both are little more than career special teams players. Copper is wearing his fourth NFL jersey in seven years. Darling spent the first half of last season in Kansas City failing miserably to beat single coverage despite the fact Bowe and Tony Gonzalez were drawing defenders.

Why were Copper and Darling starting? Supposedly, it was a motivational ploy by Coach Todd Haley, who wouldn’t mind turning Bowe into Larry Fitzgerald, the Pro Bowl receiver who flourished under his guidance with the Arizona Cardinals a year ago. It’s no secret Bowe has been dropping passes in training camp.

Bowe didn’t drop any passes Saturday night.

He got open, latched onto the ball with his incredibly strong hands again and again, and generally looked like someone who was determined to fight his way back into the starting lineup. After catching a simple hook pattern to start his night, Bowe sold out his body on KC’s next drive, diving to secure a 14-yard gain, setting up a Ryan Succop field goal.

Working with Brodie Croyle and a handful of second and third-string Chiefs, Bowe later made an incredible leaping catch down the right sideline for 18 yards. His night concluded after five catches, 70 yards, and nary a dropped pass for Haley to fume over.

Bowe didn’t appear to be a receiver who wanted to pout over his third-team sentence, ala Randy Moss. He looked motivated and hungry to prove himself. He gave Haley exactly what he was looking for – focus, flawless hands and first downs.

Did I mention all of this production came during the middle of a torrential downpour that resulted in fumbled snaps and sloppy, slippery play all over the field?

As Chiefs color man Len Dawson pointed out in the broadcast booth, “That’s pretty good for a third stringer.”

Bowe’s no third stringer, or even a backup for that matter. His performance Saturday night, and the lack thereof from Copper and Darling, should be reason enough for Haley to return his starting job immediately. Bowe might drop a couple of passes this week in practice, but demoting him again, for next Saturday’s game in Minnesota against the Vikings would be silly and counterproductive.

There’s zero reason for the Chiefs to delay developing chemistry between Bowe and Cassel. Considering their other options at receiver – none of whom showed much Saturday night – playing more mind games with Bowe is downright dangerous if the team has any plans at all to move the ball consistently this season. Getting Bowe and Cassel on the same page should be preseason priority number one from here on out.

Do we even want to think about what happens next week if no one is open while Jared Allen closes on Cassel’s blindside? And why even risk your best receiver’s health by putting him on the field deep into the third quarter of a meaningless game? You’re just asking for trouble at that point.

Just imagine if Bowe had caught the slant Copper dropped on KC’s first possession against the Texans. Maybe the offense finishes that drive out with a score, giving the fans something to cheer about other than a 48-yard field goal at the halftime gun. Maybe no one is left wondering if Herm Edwards was upstairs, calling plays for the Chiefs in the first half.

Hopefully Bowe isn’t wondering about his starting job Monday morning.

Titty Meat · 08-15-2009, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Devard Darling will blow up with Bowe drawing coverage. That's all he needs.

Darling sucks

**Slainte** · 08-15-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ArrowheadMagic

exactly Darlings problem.... he needs someone else to make him a threat.

No. He just needs to blow up.

By which I mean explode.

Into a million pieces. So's he's not on the Chiefs' roster anymore...

keg in kc · 08-15-2009, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Letting him play against weak competition is challenging him?

It's a challenge to his ego. Playing with the second team is a slap in the face. And it's a way of saying, not just to bowe, but to the entire team, that you have to earn your spot; nothing is handed to you, no matter who you are.

He did the same thing with Dorsey.

The results tonight prove the method.

**wazu** · 08-15-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Letting him play against weak competition is challenging him?

A challenge would be letting Bowe fix the suck that is currently our first-team offense.

The only way he'll be able to meet that challenge will be through hard work. Haley is doing a masterful job. Leadership isn't easy. Bowe is already responding positively, and will be a better player because of it.

Hammock Parties · 08-15-2009, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

It's a challenge to his ego. Playing with the second team is a slap in the face. And it's a way of saying, not just to bowe, but to the entire team, that you have to earn your spot; nothing is handed to you, no matter who you are.

He did the same thing with Dorsey.

The results tonight prove the method.

Or maybe Bowe would have kicked ass anyway. You think he LIKES dropping passes? You think he LIKES the reputation he earned last year?

The smart money says he would have made just as many plays for Cassel as he did for Croyle. He's not a lazy receiver.

ArrowheadMagic · 08-15-2009, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Alvin Harper anyone?

Only thing is... Alvin Harper actually produced..... Darling.... with Bowe and Gonzo drawing coverage .... not so much..... If a HOF TE and a top 10 WR cant draw enough coverage away from you to be a contributor. Then you're probably not one.

Hammock Parties · 08-16-2009, 12:00 AM

It was a joke, silly dilly.

Titty Meat · 08-16-2009, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Or maybe Bowe would have kicked ass anyway. You think he LIKES dropping passes? You think he LIKES the reputation he earned last year?

The smart money says he would have made just as many plays for Cassel as he did for Croyle. He's not a lazy receiver.

Claythan you are kinda a cry baby when it comes to the Bowe subject. You wanan bitch about LJ not playing enough either?

Hammock Parties · 08-16-2009, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Claythan you are kinda a cry baby when it comes to the Bowe subject. You wanan bitch about LJ not playing enough either?

No? I expected LJ to get one series and that's what he got.

Titty Meat · 08-16-2009, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

No? I expected LJ to get one series and that's what he got.

You didn't think Haley would make Bowe an example? You talk about the chemistry between Bowe & Cassel so do you know if they worked together in the off-season thats usually where chemistry is built. Everyone should have seen this coming when the Chiefs hired Haley. Bowe wasn't a focused football player.

Hammock Parties · 08-16-2009, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

You didn't think Haley would make Bowe an example? You talk about the chemistry between Bowe & Cassel so do you know if they worked together in the off-season thats usually where chemistry is built. Everyone should have seen this coming when the Chiefs hired Haley. Bowe wasn't a focused football player.

He proved his focus and work ethic when he dropped 30 ****ing pounds.

Christ.

I've suckled at the teat 'o Haley before but this is taking it too far. These guys do have monstrous egos and I think his is getting in way. We'll see next week for sure.

Titty Meat · 08-16-2009, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

He proved his focus and work ethic when he dropped 30 ****ing pounds.

Christ.

I've suckled at the teat 'o Haley before but this is taking it too far. These guys do have monstrous egos and I think his is getting in way. We'll see next week for sure.

Who gives a **** how much weight he's lost its about what you do on the field. Chiefs fans should have known this. Tell me are you just playing this up to get subscribers to Warpaint? This really isn't a story.

Hammock Parties · 08-16-2009, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Who gives a **** how much weight he's lost its about what you do on the field. Chiefs fans should have known this. Tell me are you just playing this up to get subscribers to Warpaint? This really isn't a story.

The story of the game was Dwayne Bowe ripping shit up.

If Haley benches him again, it will be criminal.

Titty Meat · 08-16-2009, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

The story of the game was Dwayne Bowe ripping shit up.

If Haley benches him again, it will be criminal.

Really? Like i've said it wouldn't have matter that much except maybe Bowe catches the ball that Copper should have caught. The o-line wasn't that great and Cassel couldn't hold onto the ball and make plays like he did in New England.

ArrowheadMagic · 08-16-2009, 12:16 AM

it wasnt the lbs dropped...it was the passes. its not his hands dropping them...its concentration. making the move before the catch.maybe its not giving total effort in practice.

08-15-2009, 09:38 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4530478	Bowe Should Be Starting http://kan.scout.com/2/888768.html It’s time for the Chiefs to end their silly game with Dwayne Bowe. In case you were actually doing something remotely entertaining and missed Saturday night’s Chiefs game, here’s the shocking news from Arrowhead Stadium – Dwayne Bowe didn’t start the game with the rest of KC’s first-team offense. Nope, the Chiefs trotted out a couple of NFL spares – Terrance Copper and Devard Darling - to complement Matt Cassel, Larry Johnson and Branden Albert. The results, as predicted, were disappointing. After zipping a precise 12-yard timing pattern to Copper on his first pass, Cassel’s second perfect throw was dropped (by Copper). Darling’s lone touch came on a doomed slip screen on a later third down. In about a half of football, Copper and Darling combined for two catches, 15 yards, and didn’t come close to scaring a defensive back or proving they actually deserve their “starting” jobs. We probably shouldn’t be surprised. Both are little more than career special teams players. Copper is wearing his fourth NFL jersey in seven years. Darling spent the first half of last season in Kansas City failing miserably to beat single coverage despite the fact Bowe and Tony Gonzalez were drawing defenders. Why were Copper and Darling starting? Supposedly, it was a motivational ploy by Coach Todd Haley, who wouldn’t mind turning Bowe into Larry Fitzgerald, the Pro Bowl receiver who flourished under his guidance with the Arizona Cardinals a year ago. It’s no secret Bowe has been dropping passes in training camp. Bowe didn’t drop any passes Saturday night. He got open, latched onto the ball with his incredibly strong hands again and again, and generally looked like someone who was determined to fight his way back into the starting lineup. After catching a simple hook pattern to start his night, Bowe sold out his body on KC’s next drive, diving to secure a 14-yard gain, setting up a Ryan Succop field goal. Working with Brodie Croyle and a handful of second and third-string Chiefs, Bowe later made an incredible leaping catch down the right sideline for 18 yards. His night concluded after five catches, 70 yards, and nary a dropped pass for Haley to fume over. Bowe didn’t appear to be a receiver who wanted to pout over his third-team sentence, ala Randy Moss. He looked motivated and hungry to prove himself. He gave Haley exactly what he was looking for – focus, flawless hands and first downs. Did I mention all of this production came during the middle of a torrential downpour that resulted in fumbled snaps and sloppy, slippery play all over the field? As Chiefs color man Len Dawson pointed out in the broadcast booth, “That’s pretty good for a third stringer.” Bowe’s no third stringer, or even a backup for that matter. His performance Saturday night, and the lack thereof from Copper and Darling, should be reason enough for Haley to return his starting job immediately. Bowe might drop a couple of passes this week in practice, but demoting him again, for next Saturday’s game in Minnesota against the Vikings would be silly and counterproductive. There’s zero reason for the Chiefs to delay developing chemistry between Bowe and Cassel. Considering their other options at receiver – none of whom showed much Saturday night – playing more mind games with Bowe is downright dangerous if the team has any plans at all to move the ball consistently this season. Getting Bowe and Cassel on the same page should be preseason priority number one from here on out. Do we even want to think about what happens next week if no one is open while Jared Allen closes on Cassel’s blindside? And why even risk your best receiver’s health by putting him on the field deep into the third quarter of a meaningless game? You’re just asking for trouble at that point. Just imagine if Bowe had caught the slant Copper dropped on KC’s first possession against the Texans. Maybe the offense finishes that drive out with a score, giving the fans something to cheer about other than a 48-yard field goal at the halftime gun. Maybe no one is left wondering if Herm Edwards was upstairs, calling plays for the Chiefs in the first half. Hopefully Bowe isn’t wondering about his starting job Monday morning.
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ArrowheadMagic Veteran Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OPKS Casino cash: $8173465	it wasnt the lbs dropped...it was the passes. its not his hands dropping them...its concentration. making the move before the catch.maybe its not giving total effort in practice.
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