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Old 10-31-2018, 10:59 AM  
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:48 AM   #151
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I'm not as down on Houston and Berry as most of this forum. However the reality is they can't stay healthy. If you can release them or get them to take a massive pay cut instead, you do it.

We've had 4 years of playoff appearances in their era. Houston has been 100% for none of it IIRC. I know 2 years in a row he was basically a decoy out there. Can't remember about Berry.
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:53 AM   #152
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Houston CAN be released but I will be they don't.
We can't just let Ford walk for nothing. Are we going to franchise or extend Ford while also paying Houston $20 million a year for 5-6 sacks?
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:54 AM   #153
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what's the cap hit to cut both Houston and Berry after the season?
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:54 AM   #154
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We can't just let Ford walk for nothing. Are we going to franchise or extend Ford while also paying Houston $20 million a year for 5-6 sacks?
No way. Houston will have to take a pay cut or cut.
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Old 11-01-2018, 11:55 AM   #155
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If Houston and Berry are healthy next year and play the whole year they will be dominant and this team will be unbeatable. You all are ready to pull the plug already because you're frustrated. I get it, I'm frustrated too. But to act like these pro bowlers are a bunch of chumps that should be dropped because you have no patience is pretty dumb.
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:01 PM   #156
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If Houston and Berry are healthy next year and play the whole year they will be dominant and this team will be unbeatable. You all are ready to pull the plug already because you're frustrated. I get it, I'm frustrated too. But to act like these pro bowlers are a bunch of chumps that should be dropped because you have no patience is pretty dumb.
well, yeah, but in both of their cases, there's a history of being unavailable. I think you have to consider that.

Cutting Houston after this season saves $14 million.

Looks like we're stuck with Berry's until 2020 or 21. Unless I'm reading it wrong we don't get a cap break until then.
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:06 PM   #157
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well, yeah, but in both of their cases, there's a history of being unavailable. I think you have to consider that.

Cutting Houston after this season saves $14 million.

Looks like we're stuck with Berry's until 2020 or 21. Unless I'm reading it wrong we don't get a cap break until then.
Exactly. They can't stay healthy so any talk of them being healthy is kind of useless.
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Old 11-01-2018, 12:07 PM   #158
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If Houston and Berry are healthy next year and play the whole year they will be dominant and this team will be unbeatable. You all are ready to pull the plug already because you're frustrated. I get it, I'm frustrated too. But to act like these pro bowlers are a bunch of chumps that should be dropped because you have no patience is pretty dumb.
Chumps?

Nobody said that. But they're not doing any good standing on the sideline, which both of them have a history doing.
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well, according to that, we would save 9.5 mil by cutting him after June 1st next year.

Unless this "sore heel" thing is solved and over with I would absolutely do that.
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We can't just let Ford walk for nothing. Are we going to franchise or extend Ford while also paying Houston $20 million a year for 5-6 sacks?
I would franchise Ford, have Houston take a pay cut and draft another interior rusher like Chris Jones and sign Bailey for a smaller deal for 1 more season.
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Chumps?

Nobody said that. But they're not doing any good standing on the sideline, which both of them have a history doing.
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If we want to keep Houston he will need to re-negotiate for sure. But there is practically nothing gained to cut Berry.
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Cap Savings to cut Houston pre June 1: $14,000,000
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If we want to keep Houston he will need to re-negotiate for sure. But there is practically nothing gained to cut Berry.

post June it jumps though, unless I'm reading it wrong. to $9.5
Am I incorrect?

Oh, that's correct, but you still also have an $8 mill cap hit in 2020
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I would franchise Ford, have Houston take a pay cut and draft another interior rusher like Chris Jones and sign Bailey for a smaller deal for 1 more season.
I don't think Houston is going to take a pay cut, he's on his last contract pretty much.

I'd tag Ford and let Houston walk.
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