News RIP Billy Graham

ChiefFanForHire · 02-23-2018, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BiStateNo

I however, at times seem as though those, with your beliefs, go out of their way to belittle the character of those with which they disagree, which is sad. Sometimes it seems a little "petty" and other times, it seems envious.

RIP Reverend Graham.

"All homosexuals should be castrated" - Billy Graham

We wouldn't want to say mean thing about a "good man" ^^^ right?

ESPECIALLY while he was taking advantage of tax laws that say he can keep 25 million of 25 million, while a burger flipper has $100 out of $450 taken from every check of his entire life.

If you don't like people being jealous or mean spiritied to Billy, maybe its because we're all are expected to be nice to people at legitimate jobs that pay taxes, instead of raking in millions tax free to spread a personal message of hate.

People who preach hate don't go to heaven, as I've learned, admittedly, secondhand. That's why if there is a hell, Billy is currently burning in it.

Hoopsdoc · 02-23-2018, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefFanForHire

"All homosexuals should be castrated" - Billy Graham

We wouldn't want to say mean thing about a "good man" ^^^ right?

ESPECIALLY while he was taking advantage of tax laws that say he can keep 25 million of 25 million, while a burger flipper has $100 out of $450 taken from every check of his entire life.

If you don't like people being jealous or mean spiritied to Billy, maybe its because we're all are expected to be nice to people at legitimate jobs that pay taxes, instead of raking in millions tax free to spread a personal message of hate.

People who preach hate don't go to heaven, as I've learned, admittedly, secondhand. That's why if there is a hell, Billy is currently burning in it.

Except Billy Graham never said that. He said all RAPISTS should be castrated, which he later apologized for.

You should try doing some research on your own instead of just latching on to whatever meme feeds your pre existing bias.

https://www.snopes.com/billy-graham-...als-castrated/

ChiefFanForHire · 02-24-2018, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

Except Billy Graham never said that. He said all RAPISTS should be castrated, which he later apologized for.

You should try doing some research on your own instead of just latching on to whatever meme feeds your pre existing bias.

https://www.snopes.com/billy-graham-...als-castrated/

It's well known Billy had the quote taken out of context to cover his churches' ass. Dont' believe me? Take a longer look at his tax free life legacy of divisiveness and hate:https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...people-n850031

Know what he DID say on record? To a record-breaking crowd of 44,300 in Cooper Stadium in Columbus, Ohio, in 1993, “Is AIDS a judgment of God? I could not be sure, but I think so.”

Now, maybe he did or didn't say all homosexuals should be castrated - some say yes, some say no, we'll never know. But we know he DID ask a 44,000 person crowd “Is AIDS a judgment of God? I could not be sure, but I think so.” which, to you, may or may not be as bad. I don't know, they're real close, tomato, tamata. Actually.... they're both equally discriminatory and hate-laced.

Either way, Billy was never a saint - few in his, or any profression, really are. But random gas station attendants that make $1800 a month and pay $400 in taxes, live better, more honest lives,and are more productive to society than the likes of Billy Graham.

kgrund · 02-24-2018, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefFanForHire

It's well known Billy had the quote taken out of context to cover his churches' ass. Dont' believe me? Take a longer look at his tax free life legacy of divisiveness and hate:https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...people-n850031

Know what he DID say on record? To a record-breaking crowd of 44,300 in Cooper Stadium in Columbus, Ohio, in 1993, “Is AIDS a judgment of God? I could not be sure, but I think so.”

Now, maybe he did or didn't say all homosexuals should be castrated - some say yes, some say no, we'll never know. But we know he DID ask a 44,000 person crowd “Is AIDS a judgment of God? I could not be sure, but I think so.” which, to you, may or may not be as bad. I don't know, they're real close, tomato, tamata. Actually.... they're both equally discriminatory and hate-laced.

Either way, Billy was never a saint - few in his, or any profression, really are. But random gas station attendants that make $1800 a month and pay $400 in taxes, live better, more honest lives,and are more productive to society than the likes of Billy Graham.

Many of us are sick of your "Billy Graham is going to hell rant because he did not pay YOUR perceived amount of fair taxes" rants. You have more than made your point. Could you please exercise some discretion for once and move along?

Hoopsdoc · 02-24-2018, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefFanForHire

It's well known Billy had the quote taken out of context to cover his churches' ass. Dont' believe me? Take a longer look at his tax free life legacy of divisiveness and hate:https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-...people-n850031

Know what he DID say on record? To a record-breaking crowd of 44,300 in Cooper Stadium in Columbus, Ohio, in 1993, “Is AIDS a judgment of God? I could not be sure, but I think so.”

Now, maybe he did or didn't say all homosexuals should be castrated - some say yes, some say no, we'll never know. But we know he DID ask a 44,000 person crowd “Is AIDS a judgment of God? I could not be sure, but I think so.” which, to you, may or may not be as bad. I don't know, they're real close, tomato, tamata. Actually.... they're both equally discriminatory and hate-laced.

Either way, Billy was never a saint - few in his, or any profression, really are. But random gas station attendants that make $1800 a month and pay $400 in taxes, live better, more honest lives,and are more productive to society than the likes of Billy Graham.

25 years ago? That’s all you’ve got? Even then, he only offered his opinion.

That’s scandalous stuff.

And he never said gays should be castrated. There’s no evidence whatsoever that he did.

ChiefFanForHire · 02-25-2018, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoopsdoc

25 years ago? That’s all you’ve got? Even then, he only offered his opinion.

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If he were a manager or CEO or even owner of a big company that paid taxes, that served all of society (not just his own special interests), and he had given the EXACT SAME opinion - would he have been allowed to retain his position?

IowaHawkeyeChief · 02-24-2018, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefFanForHire

"All homosexuals should be castrated" - Billy Graham

We wouldn't want to say mean thing about a "good man" ^^^ right?

ESPECIALLY while he was taking advantage of tax laws that say he can keep 25 million of 25 million, while a burger flipper has $100 out of $450 taken from every check of his entire life.

If you don't like people being jealous or mean spiritied to Billy, maybe its because we're all are expected to be nice to people at legitimate jobs that pay taxes, instead of raking in millions tax free to spread a personal message of hate.

People who preach hate don't go to heaven, as I've learned, admittedly, secondhand. That's why if there is a hell, Billy is currently burning in it.

I'm sure Billy would have prayed for you and with you...

https://www.churchlawandtax.com/blog...ome-taxes.html

Yes, they pay income tax and can choose to pay Social Security tax or exempt themselves from the program.

Read this article as well:

http://time.com/money/5168865/billy-...s-money-greed/

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Billy Graham was also a wealthy man, leaving behind a fortune of real estate holdings, book royalties, and more—though biographers say his humility made him turn down opportunities to earn much more.

Grant Wacker, a professor at the Duke University Divinity School and author of America’s Pastor: Billy Graham and the Shaping of a Nation, also says that Graham has led an exemplary life free of financial scandal. “People who didn’t like Billy Graham spent a lot of time trying to find personal violations of his moral and ethical code, and they couldn’t,” Wacker told NPR after Graham’s passing. “They didn’t exist. He was a man who maintained absolute marital fidelity and moral and financial integrity. He was an evangelist who lived the way he preached.”

I feel sad for you.

ChiefFanForHire · 02-25-2018, 08:44 AM

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I'm sure Billy would have prayed for you and with you...

I feel sad for you.

My generation is not impressed by Billy's prayers - no one with half a brain would be. My generation would prefer the 11 million in taxes he would have legally paid had he ran a legitimate business. Like if he were a psychic medium that communicated with the dead, instead of a bible beater.

Don't feel sorry for me - I'm smart enough to spot a scam artist like Graham and speak up enough to (hopefully) get someone else to see he's a scam artist too. If you wanna feel sorry for someone, feel sorry for the next generation of kids that are short hundreds of millions of dollars that should have gone into their schools and roads and communities, but won't, because tax laws allows bible beaters like Billy and Olsteen to keep 100 percent of their earnings that 99 percent of all other professions have to pay.

Your own post says "they'll pay if they choose to". Can a psychic medium or a burger flipper "CHOOSE' to pay not taxes, and get away with it without being a arrested? No? Your own links prove he's a scam artist.

MarkDavis'Haircut · 02-25-2018, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefFanForHire

My generation is not impressed by Billy's prayers - no one with half a brain would be. My generation would prefer the 11 million in taxes he would have legally paid had he ran a legitimate business. Like if he were a psychic medium that communicated with the dead, instead of a bible beater.

Don't feel sorry for me - I'm smart enough to spot a scam artist like Graham and speak up enough to (hopefully) get someone else to see he's a scam artist too. If you wanna feel sorry for someone, feel sorry for the next generation of kids that are short hundreds of millions of dollars that should have gone into their schools and roads and communities, but won't, because tax laws allows bible beaters like Billy and Olsteen to keep 100 percent of their earnings that 99 percent of all other professions have to pay.

Your own post says "they'll pay if they choose to". Can a psychic medium or a burger flipper "CHOOSE' to pay not taxes, and get away with it without being a arrested? No? Your own links prove he's a scam artist.

So basically, you are saying money is the most important thing?

Glad to know where your values reside.

ChiefFanForHire · 02-27-2018, 08:00 AM

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So basically, you are saying money is the most important thing?

Glad to know where your values reside.

99 percent of professions pay taxes towards safe roads, staffed schools, fire and police protection.

Billy Graham and Joel Olsteen and all the other Professional Religious Conmen lobbied their whole lives o avoid paying taxes on safe roads, staffed schools, fire and police protection. Not because they are godly christians - but because they are greedy scumbags.

My values reside in helping my fellow man, regardless of their faith, and in paying taxes. Billy's values resided in fleecing stupid people out of their money, promoting his own brand of faith above all others, and not paying a dime towards safe roads, staffed schools, fire or police protection for his community - so he could keep it all for himself.