***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[loochy]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Goes to show you were brought up to have morals and high character, values .says a lot for your parents.Don’t know you from Adam but they I’d bet your a good person

This guy is definitely a good person. Throughout all of this, I haven't seen him speak down or be condescending to anyone. He remains calm and thoughtful and gives everything a fair chance. And, despite how horribly this virus has treated him, he hasn't lashed out at anyone.


I'd let this guy drill my teeth for sure.

[Donger]

Sorry if Q:

Overall US COVID-19 Vaccine Distribution and Administration

Total Doses Distributed

17,288,950

Total Number of People Initiating Vaccination (1st Dose Received)

5,306,797

CDC | Updated: Jan 06 2021 As of 9:00am ET

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Hospital data from Sweden, where schools stayed open, shows #Covid caused no deaths in children - and teachers were 57% LESS likely to need intensive care for Covid than other working adults. Yes, less likely.

We are destroying our kids FOR NOTHING.https://t.co/a8dTVgQYhZ

— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) January 7, 2021

It's true folks. Being a 50 year old teacher gives you magical protection against Covid that just isn't available to say a 50 year old grocery worker.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

It's true folks. Being a 50 year old teacher gives you magical protection against Covid that just isn't available to say a 50 year old grocery worker.

You missed the point. It's most likely that teachers had an easier time than other working adults is because their workplace is filled with children (who catch and transmit this disease less readily) instead of other adults. Also, their circle of socialization (is that the right term?) is relatively static and small.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by loochy

You missed the point. It's most likely that teachers had an easier time than other working adults is because their workplace is filled with children (who catch and transmit this disease less readily) instead of other adults. Also, their circle of socialization (is that the right term?) is relatively static and small.

Or that their immune system is stronger from being around a bunch of kids all the time so their immune response was better if infected.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by loochy

This guy is definitely a good person. Throughout all of this, I haven't seen him speak down or be condescending to anyone. He remains calm and thoughtful and gives everything a fair chance. And, despite how horribly this virus has treated him, he hasn't lashed out at anyone.


I'd let this guy drill my teeth for sure.

I agree, the way he has expressed himself in this thread is impressive to say the least.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

On the bright side, my moms brain bleed has stopped and she's getting to go home today around 4.

Appreciate the thoughts

Woot!

[O.city]

Originally Posted by loochy

This guy is definitely a good person. Throughout all of this, I haven't seen him speak down or be condescending to anyone. He remains calm and thoughtful and gives everything a fair chance. And, despite how horribly this virus has treated him, he hasn't lashed out at anyone.


I'd let this guy drill my teeth for sure.

Originally Posted by R Clark

I agree, the way he has expressed himself in this thread is impressive to say the least.

While being an ass on the internet is a tale as old as time, IMO, doesn't really get us anywhere.

I have some knowledge in this stuff, I'm no where near an authority obviously, but I have enough of a background that with some reading and such I can figure it out. I just tried as much to be helpful in others understanding things.

It's a serious respiratory virus, in the end, it's no one's fault they got it or spread it or anything. Mistakes were made by governments, people, whoever sure.

But that does no one any good at this point to piss and moan about. We are where we are, lets figure out how to get the hell out of it as quick and painless as possible.

[O.city]

1. Our COVID-19 paper on Immunological memory to SARS-CoV-2 assessed for up to 8 months after infection is out today in @ScienceMagazine !https://t.co/EoHpXHur6z@ljiresearch @SetteLab @Dani6020

— Shane Crotty (@profshanecrotty) January 6, 2021

Good info on immune response. I definitely think if you've been infected and know it, you should probably wait on the vax

[tooge]

Originally Posted by O.city

1. Our COVID-19 paper on Immunological memory to SARS-CoV-2 assessed for up to 8 months after infection is out today in @ScienceMagazine !https://t.co/EoHpXHur6z@ljiresearch @SetteLab @Dani6020

— Shane Crotty (@profshanecrotty) January 6, 2021

Good info on immune response. I definitely think if you've been infected and know it, you should probably wait on the vax

I just read that. Great news.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

It's true folks. Being a 50 year old teacher gives you magical protection against Covid that just isn't available to say a 50 year old grocery worker.

So I take it this study "feels" wrong to you. Unfortunately, decisions are better made based on evidence and right now the evidence is pointing to opening up the schools NOW.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by O.city

Good info on immune response. I definitely think if you've been infected and know it, you should probably wait on the vax

Is there a cliffs notes version?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by sedated

Is there a cliffs notes version?

People who have had covid are likely immune for 8 months or more even if they have a low level of antibodies.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Or that their immune system is stronger from being around a bunch of kids all the time so their immune response was better if infected.

Which is why healthcare workers have been so mildly hit.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by DaFace

People who have had covid are likely immune for 8 months or more even if they have a low level of antibodies.

Finding out I had the antibodies was a weight off my shoulders. Glad to see the immunity length seemingly continue to grow.