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Old 11-09-2020, 01:46 PM  
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Not going for 2....
Twice yesterday you would have thought it was a situation to go for 2. When we scored the first TD if you go for 2 and get it then it's a tie game.

Too early? Okay....

When we scored our last two TD's we should have gone for 2 at least once. You make it a 3 pt game if you get it otherwise it's a 1 or 2 pt game which is insignificant.

It all came down to a 67 yard field goal attempt that in the past some lucky **** would have made against us.

Yesterday was not a great game for any aspect of the team until the offense finally started moving.

Too many missed chances.
Too many penalties on defense.
Too many 3rd down conversions allowed.
Too many 4th down conversions allowed.
Getting burned on a fake punt.
Bad clock management at the end of the 1st half.
Terrible game from Breeland.

It took a Mahomes-Kelce-Hill effort to eek out what should have never have been a close game. These games happen and in the past we have been on the wrong side of the score. This wasn't the Raiders game where we were playing a division opponent and the Refs. This was us beating us in every aspect of the game for about 45 minutes.

Happy we got the win but hopefully the bye week wakes up a bit.
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Old 11-09-2020, 02:13 PM   #31
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We have a 100% success rate so far this year. Can't say the same for extra points.
Sample size.
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Old 11-09-2020, 02:17 PM   #32
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Sample size.
I agree with you that we should take more samples.
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Old 11-09-2020, 02:18 PM   #33
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I agree with you that we should take more samples.
More samples will equal more failures. They're not going to convert 100% if they keep trying it.
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Old 11-09-2020, 02:20 PM   #34
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More samples will equal more failures. They're not going to convert 100% if they keep trying it.
Doesn't need to be 100%. 50% would result in more points, because we don't hit anywhere near 100% of our extra points. Go back past couple of years we haven't finished below 50%. Also, we have the most amazing offense in the history of the NFL.
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Old 11-09-2020, 02:25 PM   #35
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Doesn't need to be 100%. 50% would result in more points, because we don't hit anywhere near 100% of our extra points. Go back past couple of years we haven't finished below 50%. Also, we have the most amazing offense in the history of the NFL.
We also have one of the best FG kickers in the game and his slump right now may be temporary.

Chasing points is extremely risky business, it very rarely works out the way you think.
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Old 11-09-2020, 02:49 PM   #36
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We also have one of the best FG kickers in the game and his slump right now may be temporary.

Chasing points is extremely risky business, it very rarely works out the way you think.
Don't chase points. Just go for 2 right out of the gate and keep doing it.
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Old 11-09-2020, 02:50 PM   #37
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Wouldn't need to go for 2 points if Buttker would just make his extra points
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Old 11-09-2020, 02:52 PM   #38
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Yesterday is one of those times when I think it might’ve been better to go for two instead of one, simply because it got very windy out there. Anytime you have rain, wind, snow, or any combination of the above, it can make the kicking game a lot more risky. And we saw at least one of those kicks, I don’t remember who kicked it, but it started in one direction and then started to veer in the other direction before I got halfway there.

Otherwise it just doesn’t really make sense to go for two on every single conversion.
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Old 11-09-2020, 02:54 PM   #39
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The moment of truth scenario will be if the Chiefs are down 7 at the end of a game and score a TD with the opportunity to kick an extra point/tie and go to OT or can go for two and win.

Which probability do you trust more in that clutch scenario... Mahomes leading a 2 point conversion or Butker making an extra point?
Butker has been clutch when needed to be clutch.
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With 2:42 to play, you kick the extra point and go up 9 points. You make it a two score game and every single time. Going for 2 makes zero sense in that situation.
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Old 11-09-2020, 03:06 PM   #41
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We should go for 2 every time.
No ****ing way.

This team's power running game is still ass. We can't afford to burn short-yardage plays on frivolous 2-point conversions.
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Old 11-09-2020, 03:06 PM   #42
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WTF are you talking about.

The problem wasn't the Chiefs. The problem is YOU not giving the Panthers enough credit.

I said it weeks ago, the Panthers are really close to being a playoff contender. They played hard yesterday and made some great plays. The Chiefs defense struggles a little bit when a team can run the ball AND get vertical with speedy wide outs.

That's all there is to it.
Panthers barely lost to both the Bucs and the Saints and have been competitive all season. This team could be a playoff team next year, despite being in a division with Brees and Brady.

The Chiefs could have played better.. absolutely...but the Panthers left it all out on the field. It was obviously their Super Bowl.

I could see going for two to tie the game in the first half....but no way do you go for two at the end. 9 points lead requires two scores--you do not want to take a chance and only be up 8.
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Old 11-09-2020, 03:11 PM   #43
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I don't know the right answer, but Andy never chases the points until absolutely necessary, yesterday's game included.

I, for one, like this approach, because it just seems like if you miss on it early, it almost forces you to keep trying later on, and it eventually cost you in the long run.

Maybe it doesn't change the outcome of the game, but if Andy goes for the attempt yesterday when the Chiefs pulled to 14-12, and miss it, then the Panthers score another TD and XP, then they're down 9.....and let's remember that at that point in the game, the Panthers were 2 for 2 on drives for TD (albeit, throwing every trick they had at it).

I think the risk reward early is too great early on, at least for most teams that don't have the best QB in the world, and if you do have the best QB in the world, that one point isn't going to matter much in 95% of the games....
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Old 11-09-2020, 04:40 PM   #45
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With that swirling wind, and the way Buttkicker kicks extra points, I'd have sure gone for two at least once yesterday.
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