***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by limested

You got me. I am unable to read.

Yeah, that's what I said. Apparently you don't read very well, though. I said you didn't read it. Not you couldn't read it.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by wazu

My brother got tested in L.A. and it was just a cheek swab.

That doesn’t seem deep enough to me , cheek or throat?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

So the Imperial is now again suggesting we are about to have mass deaths with the reopening.

YIKES "We predict that increased mobility following relaxation of social distancing will lead to resurgence of transmission. We predict that deaths over the next two-month period could exceed current cumulative deaths by greater than two-fold"

— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) May 22, 2020

Isn't this the UK people that said millions of people were going to die in the streets or something?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

That doesn’t seem deep enough to me , cheek or throat?

We really don't need to know how deep you like it, k???

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

You’re just not telling us how long you think it will take to gather that RCT data and be sufficient enough to feel safe in knowing there has been enough research done. That’s all I’ve been trying to ask. I don’t know how your constant runaround answers are easier than just giving a best case timeline in your opinion. How long would that process take best case scenarios? How is that question so hard for you to comprehend?

I am thankful you aren’t having one on one consultations, though, that definitely worried me thinking of the poor old ladies you berated for not subscribing to the same medical magazines as you.

How am I supposed to know how long an RCT for a vaccine is going to take in this environment? I'm not going to postulate on things I have no clue about--that's irresponsible.

The data from a Phase III RCT will take however long it takes. I'm not designing the studies. I have no ****ing clue and no community pharmacist that you talk to does either.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Isn't this the UK people that said millions of people were going to die in the streets or something?

pretty much

[loochy]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

? I'm not going to postulate on things I have no clue about

Dude, you're on ChiefsPlanet.


Have you ever heard the saying "When in Rome do as the Romans do"?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by petegz28

We really don't need to know how deep you like it, k???

If you are gonna do something do it right well at least that is what your mom always tells me

[wazu]

Originally Posted by Monticore

That doesn’t seem deep enough to me , cheek or throat?

Got some clarification:

“It was a cheek, gum, roof of mouth swab. They also have you cough deeply several times right before you swab.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Monticore

If you are gonna do something do it right well at least that is what your mom always tells me

Apparently you ain't cutting it, bro...

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[displacedinMN]

Minnesota state fair canceled

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by wazu

Got some clarification:

“It was a cheek, gum, roof of mouth swab. They also have you cough deeply several times right before you swab.”

The nasal pharyngeal swab is considered the better test, heard some places would do both throat and nose but what you describe would seem less effective, not saying it can’t be . Maybe things have changed but our hospital is still doing nasal. Maybe they found most patients could not tolerate it well enough to be effective decided to go to that method.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Never knew we had so many Virus experts posting on ChiefsPlanet

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

So the Imperial is now again suggesting we are about to have mass deaths with the reopening.

YIKES "We predict that increased mobility following relaxation of social distancing will lead to resurgence of transmission. We predict that deaths over the next two-month period could exceed current cumulative deaths by greater than two-fold"

— Topher Spiro (@TopherSpiro) May 22, 2020

I'd bet anyone that doesn't happen.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Never knew we had so many Virus experts posting on ChiefsPlanet

You could just say in the world. That said we're all a lot more educated on viruses now than we were four months ago.

I bet over half the country four months ago didn't know the difference between viral and bacterial.