***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Pete also lives rent free in your head...and it's rather spacious I must say

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Making fun of you for being reeruned isn’t living in someone’s head.

It just means your and idiot.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Could be one of the best days in a while

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Im 100% sure its because it's Sunday. The same thing happened last Sunday.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Making fun of you for being reeruned isn’t living in someone’s head.



It just means your and idiot.

You feeling left out? Or are you saying you're reeruned?

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['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Im 100% sure its because it's Sunday. The same thing happened last Sunday.

And the Sunday before that.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

And the Sunday before that.

I guess tomorrow will say a lot...

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Im 100% sure its because it's Sunday. The same thing happened last Sunday.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

And the Sunday before that.

and the Sunday before that too.

[DJJasonp]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I went to Home Depot and the grocery store today. While I took a fresh pair of medical grade gloves and a mask, I hadn't realized that it's actually a law now that all Angelenos wear masks in public. The grocery store was a bit busier than I'd seen it last month but it was weird seeing absolutely everyone in both stores wearing a mask, although it seems as if not everyone is following the order:

https://abc7.com/face-masks-covering...id-19/6097828/

Shoppers and employees in Los Angeles must wear face coverings while at the business, but not everyone is following the new order.

It's no longer optional in Los Angeles. Shoppers and employees at still-open businesses like grocery stores must wear face coverings. Most people have been following the new rules, aimed to help contain the spread of coronavirus. But there are still a few who aren't.

The city of LA's order requiring workers and customers to wear masks went into effect on Friday. "Face coverings will be mandatory whenever you go to shop or work at a restaurant, store, market, hotel, laundromat or pharmacy that is open," Mayor Eric Garcetti said.

Those who violate the order can be charged with a misdemeanor, risking fines or possibly even jail time.

Apparently people arent that smart in san diego.

I went to a couple mexican markets and Vons today - many people not wearing masks. Hell, at one of the markets (which is cramped already), 3/4 not wearing masks, and zero distancing amongst the 15 or so in line. I skipped it. Didnt need habanero that bad.

On a positive note, vons had just about everything I was looking for. Seems they're getting back to normal stock (almost).

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by O.city

I would hope people realize where their food comes from

I could write a few paragraphs on this topic but it would be a waste of time, instead I'll just use an emoji.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

And the Sunday before that.

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

and the Sunday before that too.

Not true..

Sunday March 29th was actually worse than the entire week before it

Sunday March 22nd was actually huge spike day compared to the all days before it

[petegz28]

In fact, April 5th is about the only Sunday that might be deemed an anomaly and I believe there was some reporting that there were issues with reporting numbers that day. Other than that the prior readings on Sundays were actually worse that the week leading up to them.

So to say things are better just because it is Sunday is largely inaccurate.

But that's just going by the actual numbers reported ....

[JakeF]

Maybe people in America won't eat so much now. Your width really shouldn't equal half your height. It would be nice is America wasn't full of a bunch of fat slobs.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Not true..

Sunday March 29th was actually worse than the entire week before it

Sunday March 22nd was actually huge spike day compared to the all days before it

Sunday March 29 had a much lower growth on a percentage basis than the several days preceding it.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Not true..

Sunday March 29th was actually worse than the entire week before it

Sunday March 22nd was actually huge spike day compared to the all days before it

I think tomorrow may be the first actual litmus test. If we don't see a jump over Sunday then the trend is definitely dropping quickly.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Sunday March 29 had a much lower growth on a percentage basis than the several days preceding it.

The growth in new cases from the 28th to the 29th was right about the same as from the 29th-30th.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I think tomorrow may be the first actual litmus test. If we don't see a jump over Sunday then the trend is definitely dropping quickly.

This Sunday I will concede might have slower reporting because of Easter. Last week I believe they said there was a glitch in reporting. The prior 2 Sundays however not only did not show a drop but actually showed increases.

So to say Sunday is slow just because it is Sunday doesn't pan out when you actually look at the numbers.