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Old 04-29-2022, 06:44 PM  
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Old 11-22-2022, 02:20 PM   #2161
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Blegh. Why you gotta be a hater? Folks are excited he's finally showing something other than muffed punts and bad routes and you gotta be like 'oh, it's noting special bwbanwanwba'. Bruh, who gives a shit? Let folks be happy he's finally showing up in a good way.
It's a tough job, but someone's gotta do it.

I ain't hating, btw. He had a nice game. But i see people quick to declare him to be everything they ever said he was going to be....i mean...he didn't show THAT much.
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Old 11-22-2022, 02:23 PM   #2162
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It's a tough job, but someone's gotta do it.

I ain't hating, btw. He had a nice game. But i see people quick to declare him to be everything they ever said he was going to be....i mean...he didn't show THAT much.
Meh. By the other side of that same token it's a bit lame to try and downplay what was a pretty damn good game just because you argued against the pick back in April.
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Old 11-22-2022, 02:27 PM   #2163
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Meh. By the other side of that same token it's a bit lame to try and downplay what was a pretty damn good game just because you argued against the pick back in April.
Meanwhile, Skyy haters would have 50 posts in this thread over the last 2 days if he made a single bad play like a critical drop.
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Old 11-22-2022, 02:32 PM   #2165
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Meanwhile, Skyy haters would have 50 posts in this thread over the last 2 days if he made a single bad play like a critical drop.
Nah.

We said all week that this is his best opportunity to get some targets and earn some trust.

I just call it how i see it, man.

He answered the bell when called upon. Did exactly what he needed to do. Had some clutch catches. Showed some of the same traits we saw earlier in the season such as strong hands and slippery in his routes.

But "COOKED" Derwin James..."SUPER IMPRESSIVE"....c'mon now.
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Old 11-22-2022, 03:32 PM   #2166
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Nah.

We said all week that this is his best opportunity to get some targets and earn some trust.

I just call it how i see it, man.

He answered the bell when called upon. Did exactly what he needed to do. Had some clutch catches. Showed some of the same traits we saw earlier in the season such as strong hands and slippery in his routes.

But "COOKED" Derwin James..."SUPER IMPRESSIVE"....c'mon now.
He really did cook Derwin James, though.
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Old 11-22-2022, 03:38 PM   #2167
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He really did cook Derwin James, though.
He did.

That was a genuine stand-out play. As was the ball he scooped up as he was sliding (though it bounced off his facemask first; there's a little luck involved there).

But fisting Derwin James like he did is EXACTLY what you brought him in here hoping he could do. And he did it.

Good job, kid.

Now show us it was no accident. Same issue I have with the Frank Clark stuff after every nominally productive game he has.

He had a good game. I wouldn't oversell it or anything - I mean it was still the Kelce show and frankly Watson had two enormous plays in his own right. Guy had, what, 65 yards? Seems a bit early to crown his ass.

But it was a good game. He was the complementary player I hoped he could develop into. Cool. More critically, he had that 'flash' play that I said I wanted to see from him and that's ALWAYS what I've looked for in rookies. Show me traits. I don't care if you go for 105 yards on blown coverages and easy pitches and catches. Show me you have a skill that can lead to big plays in key spots.

He did so.
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Nah.

We said all week that this is his best opportunity to get some targets and earn some trust.

I just call it how i see it, man.

He answered the bell when called upon. Did exactly what he needed to do. Had some clutch catches. Showed some of the same traits we saw earlier in the season such as strong hands and slippery in his routes.

But "COOKED" Derwin James..."SUPER IMPRESSIVE"....c'mon now.
Derwin James is a hell of a player, one of the best safeties in the league.

But he doesn't have the wheels to run with Skyy. He can't stay with Kelce, for pete's sake. So, I don't know if cooked is the right word, but Derwin never had a chance vs. Skyy on that play.
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Old 11-22-2022, 03:39 PM   #2169
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Meanwhile, Skyy haters would have 50 posts in this thread over the last 2 days if he made a single bad play like a critical drop.
And you'd have been silent in this thread like you were the last 5 weeks.

1 post in the previous month. 11 in the last 2 days.

Be careful throwing stones here, ace.
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Wait. DJLN spent weeks and dozens of posts telling us a rookie WR was worthless. I thought he was the final authority on all things football?
I spent literally zero posts saying he was worthless. And in fact spent weeks calling for him to start.

But continue having the argument you want to have. You seem to be enjoying yourself.

Hey 'Maqe - remember who's actually looking to the middle ground

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I feel like the 'haters' ARE operating in the middle ground right now.

"We shouldn't have expected him to contribute" was the growing consensus and when Toney blows that thing to hell, there's just some other excuse.

Meanwhile myself and Detox, who have been the most vocal detractors of the pick, continue to say "hey, there's a path to productivity here even if it's going to be a longer time coming than we would like and it won't have the ceiling many hoped for". That IS the middle ground.

It's a wide enough runway to land a 747 on, frankly. It's so damn nebulous as to mean very little - I don't even like where I find myself here because I feel like I'm mostly stating truisms that are largely devoid of genuine insight.

And yet I 'hate' the guy according to many....

Huh?
If y'all are just gonna do exactly what I say you're gonna do, it's going to be REALLY boring around here.
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Old 11-22-2022, 03:49 PM   #2171
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Nah.

We said all week that this is his best opportunity to get some targets and earn some trust.

I just call it how i see it, man.

He answered the bell when called upon. Did exactly what he needed to do. Had some clutch catches. Showed some of the same traits we saw earlier in the season such as strong hands and slippery in his routes.

But "COOKED" Derwin James..."SUPER IMPRESSIVE"....c'mon now.
Probably the best safety in the league and he did beat him, more than once. Also think he did a little more than just "be where he was supposed to be" as seen on the scramble slide and scoop of that low pass.

I'm not saying the naysayers should crown him, or that the supporters like me will be proven right. But people have said he's a 3rd guy. There won't be loads of R3 WRs beating James, at all.
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He did.

That was a genuine stand-out play. As was the ball he scooped up as he was sliding (though it bounced off his facemask first; there's a little luck involved there).

But fisting Derwin James like he did is EXACTLY what you brought him in here hoping he could do. And he did it.

Good job, kid.

Now show us it was no accident. Same issue I have with the Frank Clark stuff after every nominally productive game he has.

He had a good game. I wouldn't oversell it or anything - I mean it was still the Kelce show and frankly Watson had two enormous plays in his own right. Guy had, what, 65 yards? Seems a bit early to crown his ass.

But it was a good game. He was the complementary player I hoped he could develop into. Cool. More critically, he had that 'flash' play that I said I wanted to see from him and that's ALWAYS what I've looked for in rookies. Show me traits. I don't care if you go for 105 yards on blown coverages and easy pitches and catches. Show me you have a skill that can lead to big plays in key spots.

He did so.
This says a lot, unintentionally or not.
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Probably the best safety in the league and he did beat him, more than once. Also think he did a little more than just "be where he was supposed to be" as seen on the scramble slide and scoop of that low pass.

I'm not saying the naysayers should crown him, or that the supporters like me will be proven right. But people have said he's a 3rd guy. There won't be loads of R3 WRs beating James, at all.
Started writing, went away, came back and posted and hadn't seen people had already said all this. Wasn't trying to beat a dead horse so ignore me.
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And you'd have been silent in this thread like you were the last 5 weeks.

1 post in the previous month. 11 in the last 2 days.

Be careful throwing stones here, ace.
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I'm happy to see him producing. That's all I wanted from a 2nd round WR.

Similar to how Hardman did early on. Good to see.
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