****St Louis Cardinals @ Kansas City Royals (GM 2) 5/28****

[Archie F. Swin]

TORNADO WATCH IN EFFECT UNTIL 10PM

Tuesday 5/28, 7:10 PM CT at Kauffman Stadium
Radio: STL: KMOX 1120 KC: KCSP 610
TV: STL: FS-M KC: FSKC

Tyler Lyons, LHP
1-0, 1.29 ERA

Ervin Santana, RHP
3-4, 3.14 ERA

[teedubya]

Originally Posted by frazod

You should stick with sports played in Kansas.

Like soccer!

Your mother should have flushed you down the toilet.

[Stanley Nickels]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So when we sign scrap heap relievers like Kent Bottenfield, build up their value and then trade them for career underachievers that just 'somehow' become HOF quality players like Jim Edmonds, that's merely 'buying' a team.

I guess teams just prefer dealing with the Cardinals, eh? It has nothing to do with the value of players that are in our system (players the Cardinals drafted/developed, BTW); it's just that we have a clearer phone line so the teams like the Angels just preferred doing business with us.

Player development and organizational strength are far more than merely drafting players - as proven by "THE GREATEST FARM SYSTEM IN BASEBALL HISTORY!!!!"

Luck is the residue of intent. Antonym: Moore, Dayton.

[Stanley Nickels]

I'm not kidding when I say this: posters at the cesspool that is the official Royals' message board created a petition for management change.. on CHANGE.ORG . What. The. ****.

http://www.forums.mlb.com/n/pfx/foru...yals&tid=43511

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by teedubya

Your mother should have flushed you down the toilet.

Ewwwww!

Well, if you don't like soccer, there's always NASCAR!

[crossbow]

Firing last year's hitting coach seems to have solved most of their problems on offense.

Go Ned...go Royals.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by crossbow

Firing last year's hitting coach seems to have solved most of their problems on offense.

Go Ned...go Royals.

Didn't catch who St. John had on this morning but the question was asked if firing Seitzer was a Yost or Moore decision. This person felt it was a Yost decision.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by frazod

Ewwwww!

Well, if you don't like soccer, there's always NASCAR!

This thread just took a left turn.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by tk13

Love him or hate him Glass has given DM more resources than other successful GMs have had. Let him spend record amounts in the draft, move toward the top in international spending, and bumped the payroll when DM wanted to fix the pitching staff. There are numerous teams that have made the playoffs spending less than the Royals in recent years. Wasting money on offensive black holes and prospects not developing are the biggest problem.

This is where I'm at.

If I could get rid of both tomorrow, I would. But I will at least give credit to Glass for giving Moore the resources he asked for. I just hope Moore's failure to take advantage doesn't scare Glass into withdrawing that level of support and investment for the next guy.

Moore's inability to build a system that can turn prospects into quality MLB players is the biggest failing.

It's clear they have scouted well and found talented athletes and ballplayers. But that talent has not faired well when making the big jumps (A+ to AA, minors to MLB). Two years after having so much talent in the minor league system that the national guys (Goldstein, Mayo, JJ Cooper, etc) were talking about it in historic terms, the payoff is Sal Perez, some great bullpen arms, James Shields, Wade Davis, and a couple of hitters with immense natural talent who are busting.

Moore's MLB roster construction, outside the bullpen, has also been poor. Lot of wasted money on guys that he is then overly loyal to.

[siberian khatru]

If it makes you feel any better, it's not just the Royals. Appears the Mariners are having the same problem. Of course, they sent down Montero and just sent down Ackley. Eric Wedge blames sabermetrics for Ackley's struggles:

Wedge was talking about Ackley's demotion to Triple-A and his mental approach, and he intimated that Ackley might have been too concerned with pitch selectivity and high on-base percentage, leading to a one-liner that hit on one of baseball's most intriguing ongoing philosophical battles.

"It's the new generation. It's all this sabermetrics stuff, for lack of a better term, you know what I mean?" Wedge said. "People who haven't played since they were 9 years old think they have it figured out. It gets in these kids' heads."

http://deadspin.com/mariners-manager...ey-s-510150363

Then ESPN's David Schoenfeld says it's time to fire Eric Wedge. Why? "Seattle's failure to consistently develop prospects could soon cost manager Eric Wedge his job" :

But the list of Mariners position players besides Jones and Choo once rated in Baseball America's top 100 prospects is a sad list:

...

How does this happen? How can one organization fail so miserably? Certainly, there's been a system-wide failure -- again, through different regimes and thus different major and minor league coaches and instructors -- to develop hitters with the ability to control the strike zone. Is that just bad luck? Bad coaching? Bad Safeco Field karma?

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/po...ire-eric-wedge

Me again: Does that sound familiar, Royals fans?

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Me again: Does that sound familiar, Royals fans?

Very, very familiar.

Then ESPN's David Schoenfeld says it's time to fire Dayton Moore.
Why? "Kansas City's failure to consistently develop prospects could soon cost GM Dayton Moore his job" :

But the list of Royals position players besides Butler and Gordon once rated in Baseball America's top 100 prospects is a sad list:

...

How does this happen? How can one organization fail so miserably? Certainly, there's been a system-wide failure -- again, through different regimes and thus different major and minor league coaches and instructors -- to develop hitters with the ability to control the strike zone. Is that just bad luck? Bad coaching? Bad Kauffman Stadium karma?