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Old 02-27-2013, 12:45 PM  
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:01 PM   #1771
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Are you OldMan9er from webzone? It would explain a lot. Maybe dj43?
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:01 PM   #1772
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Are you OldMan9er from webzone? It would explain a lot. Maybe dj43?
If you dislike Alex so much, why are you here?
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:01 PM   #1773
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That's not gonna happen. Chiefs fans have woken up. If Smith struggle's they will boo his ass. The fans are restless.

I think most fans have finally realized that you need a ****ing qb to do any damage in the league.
I have much less faith in this outcome than you do.

Most Chiefs fans will make excuses for Alex for AT LEAST next season. He would have to hold KC back next season and at the start of 2014 before average KC fan gives up on him.

It is crazy how strong the cult of Alex Smith is. You see about a dozen of Mavericks and Macs on each ESPN article about him (Including one from a few days ago in which Teicher posits that Chiefs fans should NOT expect him to be more than he has been the past two years).
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:07 PM   #1774
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What it tells us is that Kaep was not as consistent at getting completions but still averaged more yards per attempt than Alex by an ever so slight margin. It doesn't tell us if that was a result of YAC or deeper throws. Now based on what I saw, I'd agree he did throw deeper. That is a completely different thing than "throwing to his backs" which by the way, Kaep did more than Alex did.

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Alex Smith received more YAC on a per completion basis than Kaepernick did, so sorry.

This isn't a Kaep vs Alex on the whole thing(I can do that later). This is a "Mac9er loves talking out his ass" thing. The minute a new QB started playing for the 49ers, they went vertical a whole lot more with the same talent. So no, Harbaugh did not "play it safe" because of sub par WR talent.
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:08 PM   #1775
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If you dislike Alex so much, why are you here?
To inform Chiefs fans of all the pending excuses and other chiefs player bashing the AS cult dishes out.

How about you? Why are you here?
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What it tells us is that Kaep was not as consistent at getting completions but still averaged more yards per attempt than Alex by an ever so slight margin. It doesn't tell us if that was a result of YAC or deeper throws. Now based on what I saw, I'd agree he did throw deeper. That is a completely different thing than "throwing to his backs" which by the way, Kaep did more than Alex did.
Kaepernick and Smith both threw 218 passes for the 49ers last year. It is easily observable and quantified that Kaep threw downfield far more often than Smith.

Kaepernick threw nearly twice as many (82.4 percent more) passes 21+ yards downfield than Smith did. There's no way around it. San Fran threw deep MORE often with Kaepernick. By a lot.
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:11 PM   #1777
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To inform Chiefs fans of all the pending excuses and other chiefs player bashing the AS cult dishes out.

How about you? Why are you here?
To enjoy watching Alex play. I think he'll do well here.
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^ so Alex was .625 in the RZ (15th in the league)
... and Kaep was .419 (29th)

Kaep essentially HAD to make more downfield throws because our defense was hurting and giving up more points and yards.

edit: add to that, a backyard balling QB that scrambles around like a sprayed roach is going to shake up a secondary and be able to pitch shit up deep. This helps them mask that they can't quite read initial defenses all that well.

see: Cam Newton
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:13 PM   #1779
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To enjoy watching Alex play. I think he'll do well here.
So you're a fan of the name on the back of the jersey, not the jersey. Ah, gotcha.
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:14 PM   #1780
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They probably have a top 5 front 7 in the league but the gap with their ILB's and the 49ers ILB's is pretty drastic. And yes, no one at all close to J Smith's ability. Secondary is probably better than SF though.

Here's the thing though.....why are you banking on KC to have a stellar year defensively? Wouldn't you want Alex to prove he can win without a top flight D? Or maybe you realize in your heart he can't overcome a bad/average defense?
Uh, no? I don't have an ego like that. I have never claimed that Alex Smith has the talent of Kaep, or Luck, or any of the top qbs. Alex Smith is at his best, when he is handing it off, and throwing it short. You are new here, im an Alex Smith guy, but im not "THAT ALEX SMITH GUY"
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delusion seems to be your best friend because you think Alex was the missing piece to the Chiefs success. You will see very quickly that he's a limited QB. He does not throw the ball all over the field but he will somehow do that this year? He's going to start fitting balls into tight windows downfield? No. That is not his game and if you think things will somehow CHANGE, then YOU are the delusional one.

Also, stop following me around and posting random comments on my reputation. I get it, you're butt hurt.
Why yes. I do think that Alex Smith can be a PIECE of the Chiefs missing success. Clearly, you don't know shit about the Chiefs and what their problem was last year. How about a team that turned the ball over 37 times? Can Alex Smith not do that? Can he not hand the ball off, and make short accurate throws and not allow a defense that would seem to be on the trend up to do what they do, allow their punter Colquitt to pin people deep, and rely on the running game?

I feel as if I have seen this story before.

It seemed to work out last time for Alex Smith.

Hmmmmmmm......

And im delusional. Stop Crying about your rep homo.
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:15 PM   #1781
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^ so Alex was .625 in the RZ (15th in the league)
... and Kaep was .419 (29th)

Kaep essentially HAD to make more downfield throws because our defense was hurting and giving up more points and yards.


Yeah, like that NE game, when he threw those 3 strikes to Walker, Crabtree, and Moss in the 1st half to make it 31-3. All those yardzzzzz and pointzzzz the defense gave up in that 1st half!

This is getting to comical levels. OldMan, you don't really believe this horseshit do you?
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Old 09-03-2013, 04:16 PM   #1782
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Alex Smith received more YAC on a per completion basis than Kaepernick did, so sorry.

This isn't a Kaep vs Alex on the whole thing(I can do that later). This is a "Mac9er loves talking out his ass" thing. The minute a new QB started playing for the 49ers, they went vertical a whole lot more with the same talent. So no, Harbaugh did not "play it safe" because of sub par WR talent.
Are you sure about the YAC thing? I seem to remember a lot of the pro-Kaep people point to Kaep's improved yac as a way of saying that Kaep had better placement on the ball so that the recievers could get more yards after the catch.


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Kaepernick and Smith both threw 218 passes for the 49ers last year. It is easily observable and quantified that Kaep threw downfield far more often than Smith.

Kaepernick threw nearly twice as many (82.4 percent more) passes 21+ yards downfield than Smith did. There's no way around it. San Fran threw deep MORE often with Kaepernick. By a lot.
I didn't disagree. I said that he had thrown deeper. What I said is that the stats he listed don't say that by themselves. More, my comments were related to his post re: throwing to the backs. He tried to take it a different direction.
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So you're a fan of the name on the back of the jersey, not the jersey. Ah, gotcha.
So if I may. If you are a fan of the JERSEY, but you are not a Chiefs fan, then why are you here?

ill readily admit im here because of Alex Smith. I like the guy. im a niner fan though, but I came here because every time alex is brought up it turns into an alex smith bash thread.

Well, that really hasn't changed, but this board is awesome. So other than to troll, and to warn all the good chiefs fans about how bad alex smith sucks, why are you here?
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Yeah, like that NE game, when he threw those 3 strikes to Walker, Crabtree, and Moss in the 1st half to make it 31-3. All those yardzzzzz and pointzzzz the defense gave up in that 1st half!

This is getting to comical levels. OldMan, you don't really believe this horseshit do you?
You too big a pussy to tell me who you are? How very pathetic.
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Yeah, like that NE game, when he threw those 3 strikes to Walker, Crabtree, and Moss in the 1st half to make it 31-3. All those yardzzzzz and pointzzzz the defense gave up in that 1st half!

This is getting to comical levels. OldMan, you don't really believe this horseshit do you?
Oh cool. Can we talk about the game the next weekend?
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