Chiefs Patrick Mahomes isn't "broken" you ****ing dorks - Page 2

carcosa · 11-01-2021, 10:14 PM

"broken" "abomination" "Rick Ankiel"

These are all words that people used to describe Patrick ****ing Mahomes tonight. I mean, are you listening to yourselves? Rick ****ING Ankiel?????

Look, I'm not going to pretend like he's been himself all year. He's not seeing the field as well as usual, he's struggling to trust his OL and occasionally scrambling out of clean pockets, he's missing some throws, some of those turnovers have actually been his fault and not just the receivers being unable to hold onto the ****in ball.

But all the wannabe psychologists and family therapists on this site are driving me up a ****ing wall. You don't know what the **** is going on in his head and you don't know what affect his family life has on his play.

What you DO know, based on a 3 season sample size, is that he's the greatest QB through ~50 games in NFL history. You know that he's won multiple comeback playoff games, two AFC titles, and a Super Bowl. You even know (or at least you ****ing should, unless you've been too busy moaning to actually read anything), that by most metrics he's actually been pretty good overall this season. His "turnover worthy" plays are actually DOWN from past years. He's #4 in the league in touchdowns. His TD% is identical to last season and higher that 2019. Before Tennessee, which is easily the biggest outlier of his career including the other "bad" games this season, he was leading one of the most efficient offenses of all time in terms of points per drive — yes, better than 2018. I know it doesn't feel that way because so many guys on this team (including, yes, Patrick himself on a few occasions) can't hold onto the ****ing ball. But that's the ****ing truth.

If he were moping during press conferences or lashing out on social media, I might give a little bit more credence to the narrative that he's moments away from a nervous breakdown. Not very much, but a little bit. But he's not. He's being honest (almost to a fault) about his role in the team's struggles and projecting confidence that he can turn it around. What more can he possibly do to convince some of you losers to hold onto a bit of that confidence yourselves? Does he need to go back in time and miraculously heal Schwartz and Fisher and win that Super Bowl? Should he just commit seppuku at midfield? What do you want??

Patrick Mahomes is not broken. He's slumping. Every QB slumps occasionally. Not every QB calls having the 4th best QBR (64.1) and 6th best EPA (46.3, just above the dreaded Aaron Rodgers) a ****ing slump. Personally, even after 8 underwhelming-to-miserable games and a 4-4 record, I'm gonna give the kid a little more leeway before calling for him to be committed to the god damn psych ward. I think he's earned at least that much.

carcosa · 11-01-2021, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Throughout the current shit show. Tyreek has been the lone bright spot. Dude just delivers.

Yeah but even he's had some pretty crucial mistakes. Take out even just a randomly selected handful of turnovers this year and we're not talking about Mahomes' mental state at all.

DRM08 · 11-01-2021, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Throughout the current shit show. Tyreek has been the lone bright spot. Dude just delivers.

Not entirely. He's had some bobbled ball INT's and a bad fumble deep in Chargers territory that killed them. Kelce was the only one until tonight who seemed to avoid these type of mistakes.

carcosa · 11-01-2021, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

It's this right here. Basically all new, young offensive line. They've done great at times and other times they've shit the bed. That's to be expected and I think it will get better with more games under their belt. Mahomes will benefit from that time with them as well.

As far as the receivers, with all the crazy tipped passes, dropped balls, fumbles, and random crazy shit that somehow results in a turnover every other possession, it's gotten in Mahomes head. That will also get better with time. I mean it ****ing has to right? This shit's insane. This team was one of the best in the league at not turning the football over. For several years. Now all of a sudden they're turning it over on a 1/4 of their possessions? Crazy.

The turnover thing is totally unsustainable and yet somehow they've managed to sustain it for 8 weeks. It's an anti-miracle.

The coin has to come up in our favor eventually. When it does, Patrick will look a lot closer to normal.

**RollChiefsRoll** · 11-01-2021, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DRM08

Not entirely. He's had some bobbled ball INT's and a bad fumble deep in Chargers territory that killed them. Kelce was the only one until tonight who seemed to avoid these type of mistakes.

OKAY FINE EVERYONE SUCKS

KC_Connection · 11-01-2021, 10:32 PM

That Rick Ankiel reference tonight is going to be memorable when he ends up winning MVP again in the next few years.

suzzer99 · 11-01-2021, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

That Rick Ankiel reference tonight is going to be memorable when he ends up winning MVP again in the next few years.

You don't think he's gonna pull it out this year? YE OF LITTLE FAITH!

chiefzilla1501 · 11-01-2021, 10:36 PM

Our fans clearly need this kick in the dick. We have completely forgotten how to deal with adversity. If fans are this reactive to a few bad games, they're fair weathered fans. He's more than earned the time and trust to figure this shit out. And he will.

Wallcrawler · 11-01-2021, 10:36 PM

All I know is that Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback I've ever seen. I've witnessed three of the best years of Chiefs football ever, and I saw this kid deliver a title. Something some of my friends and family died never getting to see.

The kid looked unstoppable the past 3 years. A tiny bit of adversity and everyone is shitting on this guy left and right when a good amount of this isn't even on him.

It's not anything he can't work through and figure out. He has the attitude, and ability to get out of the slump.

If anyone has earned benefit of the doubt, it's Patrick ****ing Mahomes.

FloridaMan88 · 11-01-2021, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Fun fact - Mahomes has 10 INTs so far this season. One less than he had the last two regular seasons combined.

Half of those were on tipped passes.

**Easy 6** · 11-01-2021, 10:38 PM

He's off this year, no question about it... the good news is, his off years are still elite

As Bill Clinton once famously said... there is nothing wrong with Patrick Mahomes, that can't be fixed by whats right with Patrick Mahomes

He will work it out, meanwhile...

Andy needs to embrace the run, the current talent on hand demands it

And we need a serious #2 receiver in the worst way, targeting Reek 87 times a game is a cry for help... it can't last

KC_Connection · 11-01-2021, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

You don't think he's gonna pull it out this year? YE OF LITTLE FAITH!

I figure his teammates will stop dropping passes and fumbling the ball by some time next season. I’m optimistic.

jd1020 · 11-01-2021, 10:39 PM

Whatever he is he needs to figure it out. He's playing like absolute shit right now. Running from clean pockets into sacks. Lucky to throw a pass on target. He's had bad games before and then turns it on for the 4th quarter to win games but this is a ****ing weekly thing of stringing together shit.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-01-2021, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

The turnover thing is totally unsustainable and yet somehow they've managed to sustain it for 8 weeks. It's an anti-miracle.

The coin has to come up in our favor eventually. When it does, Patrick will look a lot closer to normal.

It's really remarkable how many bad little things the team has experienced this year. It's one of those things where all the bad juju hits you at once. It either makes for an incredible turnaround story. Or we just need to get through the year in one piece then start fresh next year.

This team will likely be just fine once we get this out of their system. And I think the adversity will ground them again and motivate them.

KC_Connection · 11-01-2021, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Whatever he is he needs to figure it out. He's playing like absolute shit right now. Running from clean pockets into sacks. Lucky to throw a pass on target. He's had bad games before and then turns it on for the 4th quarter to win games but this is a ****ing weekly thing of stringing together shit.

The Chiefs won the game today in the end because of a late game drive by Mahomes. Probably important to note that many other QBs (see Daniel Jones) shit their pants in those situations and that that kind of play shouldn’t be taken for granted.

lcarus · 11-01-2021, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

And we need a serious #2 receiver in the worst way, targeting Reek 87 times a game is a cry for help... it can't last

It doesn't appear the Josh Gordon signing is gonna help us too much. Unfortunate.

11-01-2021, 10:14 PM
carcosa Thank you Join Date: May 2014 Casino cash: $2663695	Patrick Mahomes isn't "broken" you ing dorks "broken" "abomination" "Rick Ankiel" These are all words that people used to describe Patrick **ing Mahomes tonight. I mean, are you listening to yourselves? Rick ING Ankiel????? Look, I'm not going to pretend like he's been himself all year. He's not seeing the field as well as usual, he's struggling to trust his OL and occasionally scrambling out of clean pockets, he's missing some throws, some of those turnovers have actually been his fault and not just the receivers being unable to hold onto the in ball. But all the wannabe psychologists and family therapists on this site are driving me up a ing wall. You don't know what the is going on in his head and you don't know what affect his family life has on his play. What you DO know, based on a 3 season sample size, is that he's the greatest QB through ~50 games in NFL history. You know that he's won multiple comeback playoff games, two AFC titles, and a Super Bowl. You even know (or at least you ing should, unless you've been too busy moaning to actually read anything), that by most metrics he's actually been pretty good overall this season. His "turnover worthy" plays are actually DOWN from past years. He's #4 in the league in touchdowns. His TD% is identical to last season and higher that 2019. Before Tennessee, which is easily the biggest outlier of his career including the other "bad" games this season, he was leading one of the most efficient offenses of all time in terms of points per drive — yes, better than 2018. I know it doesn't feel that way because so many guys on this team (including, yes, Patrick himself on a few occasions) can't hold onto the ing ball. But that's the ing truth. If he were moping during press conferences or lashing out on social media, I might give a little bit more credence to the narrative that he's moments away from a nervous breakdown. Not very much, but a little bit. But he's not. He's being honest (almost to a fault) about his role in the team's struggles and projecting confidence that he can turn it around. What more can he possibly do to convince some of you losers to hold onto a bit of that confidence yourselves? Does he need to go back in time and miraculously heal Schwartz and Fisher and win that Super Bowl? Should he just commit seppuku at midfield? What do you want?? Patrick Mahomes is not broken. He's slumping. Every QB slumps occasionally. Not every QB calls having the 4th best QBR (64.1) and 6th best EPA (46.3, just above the dreaded Aaron Rodgers) a **ing slump. Personally, even after 8 underwhelming-to-miserable games and a 4-4 record, I'm gonna give the kid a little more leeway before calling for him to be committed to the god damn psych ward. I think he's earned at least that much.
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $1944497	Our fans clearly need this kick in the dick. We have completely forgotten how to deal with adversity. If fans are this reactive to a few bad games, they're fair weathered fans. He's more than earned the time and trust to figure this shit out. And he will.
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Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4182912	All I know is that Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback I've ever seen. I've witnessed three of the best years of Chiefs football ever, and I saw this kid deliver a title. Something some of my friends and family died never getting to see. The kid looked unstoppable the past 3 years. A tiny bit of adversity and everyone is shitting on this guy left and right when a good amount of this isn't even on him. It's not anything he can't work through and figure out. He has the attitude, and ability to get out of the slump. If anyone has earned benefit of the doubt, it's Patrick ****ing Mahomes. __________________ She did not open her eyes this morning. I don't know what else to say.
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Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3567775	He's off this year, no question about it... the good news is, his off years are still elite As Bill Clinton once famously said... there is nothing wrong with Patrick Mahomes, that can't be fixed by whats right with Patrick Mahomes He will work it out, meanwhile... Andy needs to embrace the run, the current talent on hand demands it And we need a serious #2 receiver in the worst way, targeting Reek 87 times a game is a cry for help... it can't last
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jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7712645	Whatever he is he needs to figure it out. He's playing like absolute shit right now. Running from clean pockets into sacks. Lucky to throw a pass on target. He's had bad games before and then turns it on for the 4th quarter to win games but this is a ****ing weekly thing of stringing together shit.
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