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Old 04-21-2013, 08:17 AM   #1
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That, and the QB rating, are a couple of the most useless metrics in all of sports.
Anything that makes Alex look good is useless. We dont care about wins, QBR, completion % any of it. /CP
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:22 AM   #2
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Anything that makes Alex look good is useless. We dont care about wins, QBR, completion % any of it. /CP
I still don't like the deal, but PFF (who I take more stock in than any poster here for players on other teams) had Alex as a fringe Top 10 QB the last 2 years on a per game basis. On the other hand, even in Cassel's Pro Bowl season it was exposed as a fraud according to them. That made me feel even better seeing that. The guy is a pretty big upgrade at QB.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:31 AM   #3
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I still don't like the deal, but PFF (who I take more stock in than any poster here for players on other teams) had Alex as a fringe Top 10 QB the last 2 years on a per game basis. On the other hand, even in Cassel's Pro Bowl season it was exposed as a fraud according to them. That made me feel even better seeing that. The guy is a pretty big upgrade at QB.
Its very simple, Alex is an ex SF QB and he is not Geno so there is nothing outside of a SB win next year that is going to be good enough for 90% of CP.

There is no ability to distinguish between any other QB we ever traded for in the past and Alex Smith, they are all the same. If Alex was Joe Montana at this point people would bitch.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:32 AM   #4
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Its very simple, Alex is an ex SF QB and he is not Geno so there is nothing outside of a SB win next year that is going to be good enough for 90% of CP.

There is no ability to distinguish between any other QB we ever traded for in the past and Alex Smith, they are all the same. If Alex was Joe Montana at this point people would bitch.

Speaking of consistency, I bitched when we traded for Montana.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:34 AM   #5
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Speaking of consistency, I bitched when we traded for Montana.
And you were wrong back then.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:36 AM   #6
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And you were wrong back then.
Was I?

I told all my friends that trading Montana gave that team a 3 year window, at best, and that it was unlikely that he could stay healthy through a full season to lead that team to a SB.

I guess I was wrong about the 3 year window, since he only lasted 2 years.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:40 AM   #7
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Was I?

I told all my friends that trading Montana gave that team a 3 year window, at best, and that it was unlikely that he could stay healthy through a full season to lead that team to a SB.

I guess I was wrong about the 3 year window, since he only lasted 2 years.

I guess it's the same scenerio now. 6 probowlers on hand so we need a stop gap opportunity to win now.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:42 AM   #8
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Was I?

I told all my friends that trading Montana gave that team a 3 year window, at best, and that it was unlikely that he could stay healthy through a full season to lead that team to a SB.

I guess I was wrong about the 3 year window, since he only lasted 2 years.
Yes, you were wrong to complain about trading for a QB that got us to the AFCCG.

Come on dude. Even you can't say that was a mistake in hindsight, its the only thing that put KC back on the map not to mention the last time we won a ****ing playoff game.
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Old 04-21-2013, 08:34 AM   #9
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There is no ability to distinguish between any other QB we ever traded for in the past and Alex Smith, they are all the same. If Alex was Joe Montana at this point people would bitch.
Or, it could be that they've watched him play for seven years, have seen what he can do and aren't just blind optimists that think the front office can do no wrong no matter what.
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Or, it could be that they've watched him play for seven years, have seen what he can do and aren't just blind optimists that think the front office can do no wrong no matter what.
So you are saying CP has thought he sucked for 7 years? Hmmmm better do some research on that.
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So you are saying CP has thought he sucked for 7 years? Hmmmm better do some research on that.
Reading comprehension isn't a strength, is it?
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Its very simple, Alex is an ex SF QB and he is not Geno so there is nothing outside of a SB win next year that is going to be good enough for 90% of CP.

There is no ability to distinguish between any other QB we ever traded for in the past and Alex Smith, they are all the same. If Alex was Joe Montana at this point people would bitch.
It's silly to say he's the same player as Cassel, he's not. It's not silly to be pissed that we passed on drafting a franchise QB to draft an efficient game manager. We definately in my mind upgraded a good deal, but will it hurt us in the long run is the question.
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Its very simple, Alex is an ex SF QB and he is not Geno so there is nothing outside of a SB win next year that is going to be good enough for 90% of CP.

There is no ability to distinguish between any other QB we ever traded for in the past and Alex Smith, they are all the same. If Alex was Joe Montana at this point people would bitch.
Yeah. But hes not. Hes a QB that has less Touchdowns than Matt Cassel despite starting more games, only 2 games over.500 for his career, and as risk averse as Cassel was, Alex Smith is even worse.
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Yeah. But hes not. Hes a QB that has less Touchdowns than Matt Cassel despite starting more games, only 2 games over.500 for his career, and as risk averse as Cassel was, Alex Smith is even worse.
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Way to prove your ignorance.
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Way to prove your ignorance.
Really?

Number of passes thrown over 10 yards in 2012:
Matt Cassel: 92
Alex Smith: 56

In 2011
Matt Cassel (in 9 games): 89
Alex Smith: 117

So on average, Alex Smith throws the ball over 10 yards only 7 times per game. Matt Cassel on average throws the ball over 10 yards 11 times a game.

Checkmate.
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