Hunt outlines changes the Chiefs are making to get the red back in Arrowhead

[ChiefMojo]

Bingo but many are so damn narrow minded they just think of drafting a QB in the first round will solve all problems. Sure it would be great if there was a legit franchise QB to take at #1.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Bring back the PRRRRRRRRRICE CHOPPER commercials. The Hy-Vee elevator music- ***** right 53 times sucked the penis.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

2010 was rough for a lot of folk$.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint

2010 was rough for a lot of folk$.

That's true.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

All these ****ers want is a swift return to Martyball. Hell, I bet that shit was even brought up in the initial meetings. "remember the good ol' days"? Etc. Oh yeah, the days we didnt win jack-shit? Oh yeah. That was ****in' grrrrrrrrrrreat! **** me.
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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

All these ****ers want is a swift return to Martyball. Hell, I bet that shit was even brought up in the initial meetings. "remember the good ol' days"? Etc. Oh yeah, the days we didnt win jack-shit? Oh yeah. That was ****in' grrrrrrrrrrreat! **** me.
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Andy Reid is an offensive coach who doesn't run the ball much. I don't know what you're trying to say here. Just because the team is dialed in to going 8-8 now, does not mean they don't want to be serious winners in the future. We haven't seen good or bad what their long-term plan is.

[ChiefMojo]

So gblowfish you apparently just glossed over all the rest of the article then or picked out the one thing you wanted to rant about? From reading your post it is apparent you have a agenda and nothing will fix that... your issue, not ours.

In reality I think most fans don't care about the whole "card reward business" even though it is smart business, as much as they do with the connection and feeling like insiders aspect. The fanbase as a whole just wants to feel like what they had interaction wise back in the 90' to mid 00's (I know that whole Martyball/Grandpa Dick era pisses some of you off). Nothing less and nothing more. Sure everyone will come completely back once we start winning but don't think for a second there isn't a large portion of the fanbase that just want to feel they are a part of the franchise like they once were. By going .500 really gets most of those fans back along with the feeling of being loved/connected... I know that pisses some on this board off mightily!

For those to say Dorsey, Reid and Hunt just want to be .500 to fill Clark's pockets are insane and stupid! Those guys want to win championships as bad or probably worse than the fanbase.

[Bugeater]

Jesus, some of you people are dense. I'm not saying that they "want" to just go .500 and sell tickets. I'm just saying that it is their ABSOLUTE FIRST ****ING PRIORITY because they will lose their jobs if they don't. I don't doubt that they all "want" to win a SB, the question is are they willing to take the risks necessary to do that? No, nobody knows for sure yet, but right now it looks like it's business as usual at One Arrowhead Drive. Given the history of the franchise, you can't blame people for their concern early on.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

Jesus, some of you people are dense. I'm not saying that they "want" to just go .500 and sell tickets. I'm just saying that it is their ABSOLUTE FIRST ****ING PRIORITY because they will lose their jobs if they don't. I don't doubt that they all "want" to win a SB, the question is are they willing to take the risks necessary to do that? No, nobody knows for sure yet, but right now it looks like it's business as usual at One Arrowhead Drive. Given the history of the franchise, you can't blame people for their concern early on.

I believe Hunt's first priority is business, but I also believe he has a burning desire to win a SB.

I think that is proven by the fact that in both situations that he found himself looking for football people to run the team he has gotten the top candidates for the position.

I didn't believe Scott Pioli was the right guy then, I don't believe that Reid is the right guy now.

My concern is that the football people are the wrong people.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by milkman

I believe Hunt's first priority is business, but I also believe he has a burning desire to win a SB.

I think that is proven by the fact that in both situations that he found himself looking for football people to run the team he has gotten the top candidates for the position.

I didn't believe Scott ***** was the right guy then, I don't believe that Reid is the right guy now.

My concern is that the football people are the wrong people.

My first thought of having Andy Reid as our coach was thinking that Geno Smith would be the perfect fit. Now that we traded away our second pick for the wrong Smith am pretty much thinking like you that Andy Reid is the wrong hire. All I wanted and hoped for was drafting a QB with our first pick of the draft so we can start building a team for championships.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

My first thought of having Andy Reid as our coach was thinking that Geno Smith would be the perfect fit. Now that we traded away our second pick for the wrong Smith am pretty much thinking like you that Andy Reid is the wrong hire. All I wanted and hoped for was drafting a QB with our first pick of the draft so we can start building a team for championships.

I don't think anyone doubts that both Reid and Dorsey believe the QB is a priority, and their history shows that they will constantly bring in new QBs. So I don't think that's why people think Reid is the wrong hire. Not to mention... if they just flat out don't like the QB options, then let's see how that plays out, but they damn well better be right.

Only reason I'm not a huge fan of the Reid hire is that, like Marty, he has a way of coaching himself into losing big games. I don't doubt for a second that in a few years, Reid will have a very talented team, but worry he won't quite get past the AFC championship game.

[gblowfish]

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[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

My first thought of having Andy Reid as our coach was thinking that Geno Smith would be the perfect fit. Now that we traded away our second pick for the wrong Smith am pretty much thinking like you that Andy Reid is the wrong hire. All I wanted and hoped for was drafting a QB with our first pick of the draft so we can start building a team for championships.

You nicely summed up the ludicrous ideology that represents a lot of people on this board. Too many people had all their eggs in the Geno basket. No Geno then these guys obviously have no idea what they are doing since its a lock Geno is going to be successful in the NFL.

We have the #1 pick in arguably the worst draft in 15 years. That's not Reid or Dorsey's fault and because you can't force feed them the QB you want then they must be idiots right.

When they were hired they were genius and the right guys, they trade for Alex Smith they are now idiots who only care about 8-8.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You nicely summed up the ludicrous ideology that represents a lot of people on this board. Too many people had all their eggs in the Geno basket. No Geno then these guys obviously have no idea what they are doing since its a lock Geno is going to be successful in the NFL.

We have the #1 pick in arguably the worst draft in 15 years. That's not Reid or Dorsey's fault and because you can't force feed them the QB you want then they must be idiots right.

When they were hired they were genius and the right guys, they trade for Alex Smith they are now idiots who only care about 8-8.

I think a lot of people were excited by the Reid hire (I wasn't, but I was in the minority).

However, when he and Dorsey used the same blueprint at QB that has failed this franchise for 30 years, it would almost be impossible for many to simply sit back and not begin to question the decision.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

You nicely summed up the ludicrous ideology that represents a lot of people on this board. Too many people had all their eggs in the Geno basket. No Geno then these guys obviously have no idea what they are doing since its a lock Geno is going to be successful in the NFL.

We have the #1 pick in arguably the worst draft in 15 years. That's not Reid or Dorsey's fault and because you can't force feed them the QB you want then they must be idiots right.

When they were hired they were genius and the right guys, they trade for Alex Smith they are now idiots who only care about 8-8.

I'm sure John Dorsey is a brilliant personnel evaluator who will string together some very nice drafts for KC.

And I'm sure Andy Reid actually is the QB guru that people in the NFL claim him to be. And he's probably the best head coach this Chiefs team has had since Dick Vermeil, and probably even better.

But the Alex Smith decision was dumb. It was a dumb decision. Andy even said he wanted Smith because he had a bizarre fascination with the player from afar in Philadelphia all those years. He let his emotions and enormous fat gut do the thinking on that QB decision. Coaches do it all the time, so whatever.

The problem is he did it at the exact wrong ****ing time. And yes, that shit DOES matter. Coming off of the Cassel years, which came after 3 seasons of Huard/Croyle/Thigpen at the tail end of a 30 year drought of 1st round QBs in the midst of approaching the 20 year anniversary of the last time the Chiefs won a playoff game isn't just bad timing. IT'S ****ING HORRIBLE TIMING.

It's the WORST ****ing timing you could possibly have in a new regime.

He shouldn't be tied down to the franchise's previous decisions and mistakes? BULL. ****ING. SHIT. He IS the franchise now, therefore the previous mistakes are HIS responsibility to fix. And he did it the worst ****ing way he possibly could.

So yes, it DOES matter that the Alex Smith trade happened, and yes it IS Reid/Dorsey's fault that they chose it. The perceived quality of QB talent in the draft should have nothing to do with it. They like Geno according to Bad Guy's source. Yet NOW they say that. They couldn't ****ing wait. They had to pull the Alex Smith trigger a whole ****ing 2 weeks BEFORE THE TRADING SEASON could begin.

That's called not thinking. It's called being stupid. They made a terrible terrible decision. That doesn't mean they're terrible at their jobs, but it DOES mean that they better ****ing win a playoff game pronto if their grand master plan is going to work.