Chiefs 2018 Free Agents - Page 70

Couch-Potato · 01-10-2018, 09:52 AM

Who are you letting walk/cutting/retiring?

http://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018/...8-free-agents/

Who are you targeting?

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nf...t-tracker?pg=1

RunKC · 03-04-2018, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

now how many of them had injuries in back 2 back offseasons like Jones.

Why does that matter? Are you implying that arthroscopic knee surgery and a torn MCL, are as serious as a torn ACL?

I agree that it’s worrisome that he had knee surgery in consecutive years, but I have a hard time believing his career is suddenly going downhill bc of 2 relatively minor injuries compared to an ACL (or ACL+PCL/MCL).

If he plays well the next 2 years injury free, would you give him an extension?

O.city · 03-04-2018, 06:26 PM

I don’t think anyone is saying that, but at this point( I wouldn’t be interested in a long term deal

BlackOp · 03-04-2018, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

Houston was overpaid too but it was always to be if you signed the guy after a 22 sack season. I think tagging him would have been the best thing and then giving him the contract the following year.

I remember playing devil's advocate when that deal was in the works...I was coming from the angle that trading him for 2 first round picks and allocating the extra funds into multiple players. That way if an injury does happen, you dont have all you financial "eggs" in one basket...

Mega-deals never seem to really pay off...of course had KC traded Houston, his knee would never have been blown out by Parker...and he would probably still be a perennial all-pro....and the fans would be pissed off.

mcaj22 · 03-04-2018, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Why does that matter? Are you implying that arthroscopic knee surgery and a torn MCL, are as serious as a torn ACL?

I agree that it’s worrisome that he had knee surgery in consecutive years, but I have a hard time believing his career is suddenly going downhill bc of 2 relatively minor injuries compared to an ACL (or ACL+PCL/MCL).

If he plays well the next 2 years injury free, would you give him an extension?

If he plays the next two season without any sort of offseason surgery then yes; he's definitely worth a 2nd contract. But I don't think they can wait two full seasons to extend him or they will have Dorsey'd themselves (This was Dorsey's go to move, wait on extensions and then have no leverage and get bent over backwards by agents)

He's an interesting case because he's a 2nd round pick, they lose that 5th year of control (which is why I think 1sts are so valuable now, you get 5 years of control and 6th if you franchise tag.) Jones could very easily walk after year 4 or they would have to tag him.

He could very well be worn into the ground by then thanks to King Sutton's terrible scheme so this is all moot. But he will still only be like 25 by the time he's a FA which is crazy young to see your 2nd deal these days. But this will be year 3 so I think if they are going to get a jump on an extension that is the best bang for the buck for the team, it would be sometime during this upcoming season.

Mother****erJones · 03-04-2018, 07:24 PM

Jags are keeping Marquis Lee. Sounds like they’ll let Robinson hit the market

Chief Northman · 03-04-2018, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Jags are keeping Marquis Lee. Sounds like they’ll let Robinson hit the market

Sick ‘em Veach!

**RealSNR** · 03-04-2018, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

If he plays the next two season without any sort of offseason surgery then yes; he's definitely worth a 2nd contract. But I don't think they can wait two full seasons to extend him or they will have Dorsey'd themselves (This was Dorsey's go to move, wait on extensions and then have no leverage and get bent over backwards by agents)

He's an interesting case because he's a 2nd round pick, they lose that 5th year of control (which is why I think 1sts are so valuable now, you get 5 years of control and 6th if you franchise tag.) Jones could very easily walk after year 4 or they would have to tag him.

He could very well be worn into the ground by then thanks to King Sutton's terrible scheme so this is all moot. But he will still only be like 25 by the time he's a FA which is crazy young to see your 2nd deal these days. But this will be year 3 so I think if they are going to get a jump on an extension that is the best bang for the buck for the team, it would be sometime during this upcoming season.

The rules say he can't sign an extension until after his 3rd season of play.

mcaj22 · 03-04-2018, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

The rules say he can't sign an extension until after his 3rd season of play.

So contract extension is somewhere between year 4 prior and during?

Couch-Potato · 03-05-2018, 12:05 AM

Allen Robinson hinting that he will hit FA on twitter

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2018/...g-free-agency/

BlackOp · 03-05-2018, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato

Allen Robinson hinting that he will hit FA on twitter

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2018/...g-free-agency/

Offense isn't KC's issue...Football Outsiders had KC's defense rated dead last, last season...

Wilson put up 150 with Mahomes....for shits and giggles...that's 2400 yards for a 16 game season.

They need to go 90% defense this year...maybe a guard on offense.

Chargem · 03-05-2018, 01:23 AM

I don't think I even want a new guard this offseason, LG was a problem last year but I'd try another year of Ehinger, Irving, Witzman, Fulton and see of one of the young two can develop

Simply Red · 03-05-2018, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Concentrate on defense.

this

O.city · 03-05-2018, 09:03 AM

I would be heavy on d but if a young offensive player that can grow with the current young crop pops in I'd sign him.

**The Franchise** · 03-05-2018, 09:28 AM

The Chicago Tribune's Brad Biggs reports the Bears will not place the franchise tag on CB Kyle Fuller.

Biggs "can't say for sure if the transition tag will be in play." It is a bit of a reversal from Biggs, who just last week said the franchise tag was an option. Expected to cost nearly $15 million, the tag would have been an overspend on Fuller and made long-term negotiations difficult. Biggs reports both sides would like to work out a deal, but Fuller is expected to at least test the market before he makes his final decision.

O.city · 03-05-2018, 09:35 AM

Ok, well there you go.

I'd settle for him, Williamson and a DL

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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $3125047	The Chicago Tribune's Brad Biggs reports the Bears will not place the franchise tag on CB Kyle Fuller. Biggs "can't say for sure if the transition tag will be in play." It is a bit of a reversal from Biggs, who just last week said the franchise tag was an option. Expected to cost nearly $15 million, the tag would have been an overspend on Fuller and made long-term negotiations difficult. Biggs reports both sides would like to work out a deal, but Fuller is expected to at least test the market before he makes his final decision.
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