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scho63 · 10-18-2018, 01:02 AM

Quick background before the bad back problem:

-I'm 55 1/4 years old
-Lost 85 pounds in the last 18 months and only 15-20 pound away from recommended weight. Did it through exercise at gym and good diet.
-I'm muscular and active at the gym and golf
-Very few medical issues; two detached retinas, one in each eye. Operations on both eyes, right 14 and left 16 years ago
-No stitches in my life
-No real issues for the most part with any major health issues or any broken bones except fracture of my hand when I got into a fight in high school and punched a kid about 20 times in the head

Back issue:
Over the last 18-24 months I began having some MINOR discomfort and morning pain in my left hip. It went away after warming up and walking around, never preventing me from any activity or event.

Fast forward to the last 2-3 weeks.
-Suddenly I begin having this sporadic shocking pain that lasts a few seconds just above my left hip then lessens. Didn't think much of it as I am aging and just think it's a muscle strain. Over the last two weeks it has become so severe so quickly that if I move or position myself in a bad way it's like someone is sticking a cattle prod in my lower back and I buckle. I nearly have tears in my eyes and the pain is substantial, just below my Pancreatitis and Gout, the two worst and most painful things I've ever had.

My fear is that with my bad posture over the last 20-25 years working at a desk on a computer along with my recent overly aggressive gym workouts and golf, I have screwed up my back really bad.

I know the Sciatic and a herniated disc can be really painful.

I'm hoping someone can share some insight who has suffered from a bad back that is not the result of an accident or work injury.

Thanks in advance and while I typed this I moved he wrong way and was shocked with the pain!

Frosty · 10-18-2018, 07:22 AM

Research trigger points. I'm about your age and know that sudden shocking pain very well., though mine tend to be in the upper back/neck area or lower back. Once I find the trigger point, I (or my wife) will massage it out and the relief is almost instant. They hurt like a MFer while massaging them, though.

This sounds like what you are describing: https://www.painscience.com/articles...eus-medius.php

siberian khatru · 10-18-2018, 07:24 AM

Stretching exercises, for sure.

When I feel my back start to weaken, I lie on one of those thick (not skinny) foam pool noodles for about 10 minutes (vertically, up and down the spine, for me), then pop an Aleve and sit down and ice my back for about 15 minutes. That almost always straightens it out and reduces inflammation.

FAX · 10-18-2018, 07:28 AM

Yep ... sounds like a deformity, Mr. scho63.

Did I miss something in the OP? Have you had x-rays performed? Visited a physician? If the answer is no, I'd change that answer to yes.

If you do have a pinched nerve, that isn't something you want to mess around with or "gut out". Find yourself a well-respected ortho-peep and do it pronto.

FAX

blake5676 · 10-18-2018, 07:54 AM

You should try a chiropractor. First of all, you can't see pinched nerves on an x-ray. You can see degeneration (everyone has it) and loss of disc height, poor posture, etc. But you don't see nerves or discs bc they're soft tissue.

A lot of chiropractors are salespeople. I hate a good portion of them honestly. And I am one

But if they set you up for a 24 visit treatment plan on day one, sell you supplements, offer you pre-pay discounts and the like then walk out. Find a good one, give them 2-3 visits/week for 2 weeks. If you're not feeling substantially better at that point, then you're barking up the wrong tree.

I usually tell my patients in a similar situation, give me 4 visits and if we're not making good progress or at complete resolution, let's talk about at least co-managing care with another provider. Next step if chiro doesn't work is MRI. That'll show any protrusion or extrusion of the disc. Once you know, other options are now available....pain management, surgery, etc. I will say I'm not a big advocate of lower back surgery, definitely not fusion.

Also, start stretching. If you go to a chiropractor, they should be giving you stretches. Most important muscles to stretch are the leg muscles, as they all attach to the pelvis, which is the foundation for your lumbar spine. Work on piriformis, hamstrings and hip flexors specifically. YouTube is a great source if you want to start that portion now.

Fat Elvis · 10-18-2018, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake5676

You should try a chiropractor. First of all, you can't see pinched nerves on an x-ray. You can see degeneration (everyone has it) and loss of disc height, poor posture, etc. But you don't see nerves or discs bc they're soft tissue.

A lot of chiropractors are salespeople. I hate a good portion of them honestly. And I am one

But if they set you up for a 24 visit treatment plan on day one, sell you supplements, offer you pre-pay discounts and the like then walk out. Find a good one, give them 2-3 visits/week for 2 weeks. If you're not feeling substantially better at that point, then you're barking up the wrong tree.

I usually tell my patients in a similar situation, give me 4 visits and if we're not making good progress or at complete resolution, let's talk about at least co-managing care with another provider. Next step if chiro doesn't work is MRI. That'll show any protrusion or extrusion of the disc. Once you know, other options are now available....pain management, surgery, etc. I will say I'm not a big advocate of lower back surgery, definitely not fusion.

Also, start stretching. If you go to a chiropractor, they should be giving you stretches. Most important muscles to stretch are the leg muscles, as they all attach to the pelvis, which is the foundation for your lumbar spine. Work on piriformis, hamstrings and hip flexors specifically. YouTube is a great source if you want to start that portion now.

This. All day long.

I had the same issue as the OP and went to the Center for Manual Medicine in Topeka. Not only did they do adjustments which made a world of difference, they followed it up with PT and an exercise plan to strengthen my muscles that had gotten weak leading to my pain. My pain was so bad I could barely stand or walk; I'm good as new now.

I used to think chiropractors were quacks, but I'm a firm believer now.

We take our daughter there for sports injuries now before we go anywhere else.

Chiefspants · 10-18-2018, 08:10 AM

I was born with Spina-Bifida Occulta which caused me to develop a misalignment in my spine - this is led to further problems. For the last three years I've been working to manage chronic pain due to Spinal Stenosis and a Herniated/Bulging Disc.

Massage, exercise (mostly cardio and light resistance stuff) and natural remedies are honestly the best I got. I clock 10,000-15,000 steps a day as a teacher, and the trick is that while I'm moving, the pain is at bay (for staff meetings I often wall-sit).

Back spasms are brutal. Certain days I get home and just hit my bed the moment I get there. I have three surgical options. Stem Cell (not covered by my insurance), a widening of the spinal column (Gronk was one of the pioneers for that one - but it's worth pointing out that it too is not covered) or a fusion. At 25, I have no interest in a fusion, especially since it won't actually cure my chronic condition. Both the stem cell and the other treatment are around $100,000 without insurance coverage, so management is the best I got.

The first step is definitely getting an MRI - (It took two years and jumping through hoops with steroids and physical therapy before I was FINALLY approved) you can get a good idea of what your situation is. Sometimes it is just temporary (like a pinched nerve or a pulled muscle) backs are unpredictable and the problems can vary greatly. X-Rays often don't tell even a page of the story and it's so important you know what's going on before you make a work-out plan to address your issues. If it's anything like my situation, bike rides, walking, stretching (as many have said on here - building up core leg strength is a godsend), being careful about movement (bending down with your legs, etc), and whatever natural remedies your state allows are my top recommendations. I won't lie, this has been a bleak road. I'm about an inch shorter and 10-15 pounds lighter (mostly lost muscle) than I was in college (looking at past pictures is difficult at times). Luckily, having a spouse that also has chronic conditions has been beyond incredible. That empathy and understanding on my level 10 pain days has been what's kept me going. I also firmly believe that I'm a better person after these experiences, and having this type of personal empathy has truly helped me form connections and trust with my students (they're all very used to my wall-sits and constant moving around at this point).

If there's ever any way I can help, let me know!

**Lzen** · 10-18-2018, 08:46 AM

It sounds like a pinched nerve issue but I'm no doctor. I would suggest you go see your doctor about it. It could be something else more serious.

Fish · 10-18-2018, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake5676

You should try a chiropractor. First of all, you can't see pinched nerves on an x-ray. You can see degeneration (everyone has it) and loss of disc height, poor posture, etc. But you don't see nerves or discs bc they're soft tissue.

A lot of chiropractors are salespeople. I hate a good portion of them honestly. And I am one

But if they set you up for a 24 visit treatment plan on day one, sell you supplements, offer you pre-pay discounts and the like then walk out. Find a good one, give them 2-3 visits/week for 2 weeks. If you're not feeling substantially better at that point, then you're barking up the wrong tree.

I usually tell my patients in a similar situation, give me 4 visits and if we're not making good progress or at complete resolution, let's talk about at least co-managing care with another provider. Next step if chiro doesn't work is MRI. That'll show any protrusion or extrusion of the disc. Once you know, other options are now available....pain management, surgery, etc. I will say I'm not a big advocate of lower back surgery, definitely not fusion.

Also, start stretching. If you go to a chiropractor, they should be giving you stretches. Most important muscles to stretch are the leg muscles, as they all attach to the pelvis, which is the foundation for your lumbar spine. Work on piriformis, hamstrings and hip flexors specifically. YouTube is a great source if you want to start that portion now.

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DenverChief · 10-18-2018, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63

Quick background before the bad back problem:

-I'm 55 1/4 years old
-Lost 85 pounds in the last 18 months and only 15-20 pound away from recommended weight. Did it through exercise at gym and good diet.
-I'm muscular and active at the gym and golf
-Very few medical issues; two detached retinas, one in each eye. Operations on both eyes, right 14 and left 16 years ago
-No stitches in my life
-No real issues for the most part with any major health issues or any broken bones except fracture of my hand when I got into a fight in high school and punched a kid about 20 times in the head

Back issue:
Over the last 18-24 months I began having some MINOR discomfort and morning pain in my left hip. It went away after warming up and walking around, never preventing me from any activity or event.

Fast forward to the last 2-3 weeks.
-Suddenly I begin having this sporadic shocking pain that lasts a few seconds just above my left hip then lessens. Didn't think much of it as I am aging and just think it's a muscle strain. Over the last two weeks it has become so severe so quickly that if I move or position myself in a bad way it's like someone is sticking a cattle prod in my lower back and I buckle. I nearly have tears in my eyes and the pain is substantial, just below my Pancreatitis and Gout, the two worst and most painful things I've ever had.

My fear is that with my bad posture over the last 20-25 years working at a desk on a computer along with my recent overly aggressive gym workouts and golf, I have screwed up my back really bad.

I know the Sciatic and a herniated disc can be really painful.

I'm hoping someone can share some insight who has suffered from a bad back that is not the result of an accident or work injury.

Thanks in advance and while I typed this I moved he wrong way and was shocked with the pain!

Have you tried a chiropractor?

DenverChief · 10-18-2018, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blake5676

You should try a chiropractor. First of all, you can't see pinched nerves on an x-ray. You can see degeneration (everyone has it) and loss of disc height, poor posture, etc. But you don't see nerves or discs bc they're soft tissue.

A lot of chiropractors are salespeople. I hate a good portion of them honestly. And I am one

But if they set you up for a 24 visit treatment plan on day one, sell you supplements, offer you pre-pay discounts and the like then walk out. Find a good one, give them 2-3 visits/week for 2 weeks. If you're not feeling substantially better at that point, then you're barking up the wrong tree.

I usually tell my patients in a similar situation, give me 4 visits and if we're not making good progress or at complete resolution, let's talk about at least co-managing care with another provider. Next step if chiro doesn't work is MRI. That'll show any protrusion or extrusion of the disc. Once you know, other options are now available....pain management, surgery, etc. I will say I'm not a big advocate of lower back surgery, definitely not fusion.

Also, start stretching. If you go to a chiropractor, they should be giving you stretches. Most important muscles to stretch are the leg muscles, as they all attach to the pelvis, which is the foundation for your lumbar spine. Work on piriformis, hamstrings and hip flexors specifically. YouTube is a great source if you want to start that portion now.

Beat me to it.

scho63 · 10-18-2018, 10:10 AM

Thanks everyone for the advice. Greatly appreciated

I haven't been to a chiropractor and I'm very skeptical of them. Ironically, there is one on the first floor of my office building! Supposedly pretty well known and a big practice. I may take a shot.

If the pain gets any worse or more constant, it's doctor visit time. Sadly, I took a part time job in the evenings that is pretty physical where I'm on my feet for 7 1/2 hours with lots of walking, bending and carrying items. I'm usually pretty good during the entire evening but last night I moved the wrong way and my knees buckled and I winced in severe pain. One of my co-workers saw it was no act and I was in true pain.

I'm an old stubborn fool and can take a high level of pain and suffering. Handled 3-4 bouts of gout in my entire ankle and foot, suffered a severe acute pancreatitis attack for 2 1/2 days not knowing it could kill and now my back issue.

I see a lot of people here talk about hip pain from sciatic and from everything I've read, so far that seems to be the culprit. Nickhead I seem to have nearly identical symptoms and location of my areas of pain.

In addition to the top area of my left hip being in severe pain if I move the wrong way or get stagnant for too long, I've had burning pain in my neck and shoulder blades from 25 years of computer bad posture by "hunching" my shoulders and my trapezoids are like two rocks, over developed.

I am very POOR at stretching and need to do that more often! I know people who practice yoga or Pilates their whole life rarely suffer from back or joint pain or pulled muscles due to the stretching and conditioning they achieve.

Time to make a decision to take action because this isn't getting better and I doubt it's going to suddenly cure itself!

**luv** · 10-18-2018, 10:17 AM

I had a herniated (or bulging) disc that would touch and irritate my sciatic nerve. Mine was on my right side, though. I went to a chiropractor, and did a decompression table along with adjustments. When the pain didn't completely go away, I ended up doing epidural steroid injections. I was to have a series of three, but ended up not needing to go back after the second one.

DenverChief · 10-18-2018, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scho63

Thanks everyone for the advice. Greatly appreciated

I haven't been to a chiropractor and I'm very skeptical of them. Ironically, there is one on the first floor of my office building! Supposedly pretty well known and a big practice. I may take a shot.

I can tell you as someone that carries an extra 25-35 lbs of gear around everyday that I occasionally have some pretty painful back issues. If it weren't for my chiro I wouldn't be able to wear the badge anymore.

I would definitely be skeptical of anyone trying to sell you potions/lotions/salves and pills. The only thing I buy fro my chiro other than an adjustment is sometimes he has great deals on icepacks or Icyhot products.

IowaHawkeyeChief · 10-18-2018, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I'm not a Dr. or play one on TV but that sounds exactly like sciatica. That nerve is getting pinched by a vertebra. I didn't fall, get in an accident.. nothing. It's mainly a malady of over 45 year old white males with European descent. Its a defect.

Dealt with it for 7 years. Over the years the pain varies from ibuprofen to shit I've got to go to the ER for a morphine drip from sciatica notch pain in the hip. Never went but it was some serious pain. Chiropractor didn't work for me. Acupuncture lowered the pain level. They can give you a steroid shot directly in the spine that will cure some people. Most get some benefit from the procedure.

Get an MRI and see how bad its getting pinched. If it is scaitca. The treatment is different for that than general lower back pain.
They can go in an shave part of the vertebra off thats pinching the nerve. But, the scar tissue from the procedure could grow into that space and your right back where you are before the procedure.

No magic bullet out there that works for everyone. People will tell you "THIS" is the solution. May or may not be. Going to have to try several options. Maybe the shot will work for you?

^this^

I started having hip pain about 4 years ago. They did an x-ray and my hips were fine. I eventually had an MRI as the pain started shooting down my leg. The MRI showed degeneration (which happens, mine probably a little earlier having played football through college) and stenosis (narrowing of the spinal column, 38% of the population has stenosis). They recommended a laminectomy after my right foot started going numb. I had that in November of last year. It was miserable, but almost a year later, I feel completely better after pretty intense PT and core strengthening. Good luck.

**lewdog** · 10-18-2018, 11:15 AM

Stop being so muscular.

10-18-2018, 01:02 AM
scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $2651110	Summoning all back pain sufferers to this thread! Quick background before the bad back problem: -I'm 55 1/4 years old -Lost 85 pounds in the last 18 months and only 15-20 pound away from recommended weight. Did it through exercise at gym and good diet. -I'm muscular and active at the gym and golf -Very few medical issues; two detached retinas, one in each eye. Operations on both eyes, right 14 and left 16 years ago -No stitches in my life -No real issues for the most part with any major health issues or any broken bones except fracture of my hand when I got into a fight in high school and punched a kid about 20 times in the head Back issue: Over the last 18-24 months I began having some MINOR discomfort and morning pain in my left hip. It went away after warming up and walking around, never preventing me from any activity or event. Fast forward to the last 2-3 weeks. -Suddenly I begin having this sporadic shocking pain that lasts a few seconds just above my left hip then lessens. Didn't think much of it as I am aging and just think it's a muscle strain. Over the last two weeks it has become so severe so quickly that if I move or position myself in a bad way it's like someone is sticking a cattle prod in my lower back and I buckle. I nearly have tears in my eyes and the pain is substantial, just below my Pancreatitis and Gout, the two worst and most painful things I've ever had. My fear is that with my bad posture over the last 20-25 years working at a desk on a computer along with my recent overly aggressive gym workouts and golf, I have screwed up my back really bad. I know the Sciatic and a herniated disc can be really painful. I'm hoping someone can share some insight who has suffered from a bad back that is not the result of an accident or work injury. Thanks in advance and while I typed this I moved he wrong way and was shocked with the pain!
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10-18-2018, 07:22 AM	#16
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10-18-2018, 07:24 AM	#17
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10-18-2018, 07:28 AM	#18
FAX testing ... 1, 2, 3 Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Tennessee Casino cash: $6753759	Yep ... sounds like a deformity, Mr. scho63. Did I miss something in the OP? Have you had x-rays performed? Visited a physician? If the answer is no, I'd change that answer to yes. If you do have a pinched nerve, that isn't something you want to mess around with or "gut out". Find yourself a well-respected ortho-peep and do it pronto. FAX
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10-18-2018, 07:54 AM	#19
blake5676 Veteran Join Date: Oct 2013 Casino cash: $2580323	You should try a chiropractor. First of all, you can't see pinched nerves on an x-ray. You can see degeneration (everyone has it) and loss of disc height, poor posture, etc. But you don't see nerves or discs bc they're soft tissue. A lot of chiropractors are salespeople. I hate a good portion of them honestly. And I am one But if they set you up for a 24 visit treatment plan on day one, sell you supplements, offer you pre-pay discounts and the like then walk out. Find a good one, give them 2-3 visits/week for 2 weeks. If you're not feeling substantially better at that point, then you're barking up the wrong tree. I usually tell my patients in a similar situation, give me 4 visits and if we're not making good progress or at complete resolution, let's talk about at least co-managing care with another provider. Next step if chiro doesn't work is MRI. That'll show any protrusion or extrusion of the disc. Once you know, other options are now available....pain management, surgery, etc. I will say I'm not a big advocate of lower back surgery, definitely not fusion. Also, start stretching. If you go to a chiropractor, they should be giving you stretches. Most important muscles to stretch are the leg muscles, as they all attach to the pelvis, which is the foundation for your lumbar spine. Work on piriformis, hamstrings and hip flexors specifically. YouTube is a great source if you want to start that portion now.
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10-18-2018, 08:10 AM	#21
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10-18-2018, 08:46 AM	#22
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scho63 Politically Incorrect Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Casino cash: $2651110	Thanks everyone for the advice. Greatly appreciated I haven't been to a chiropractor and I'm very skeptical of them. Ironically, there is one on the first floor of my office building! Supposedly pretty well known and a big practice. I may take a shot. If the pain gets any worse or more constant, it's doctor visit time. Sadly, I took a part time job in the evenings that is pretty physical where I'm on my feet for 7 1/2 hours with lots of walking, bending and carrying items. I'm usually pretty good during the entire evening but last night I moved the wrong way and my knees buckled and I winced in severe pain. One of my co-workers saw it was no act and I was in true pain. I'm an old stubborn fool and can take a high level of pain and suffering. Handled 3-4 bouts of gout in my entire ankle and foot, suffered a severe acute pancreatitis attack for 2 1/2 days not knowing it could kill and now my back issue. I see a lot of people here talk about hip pain from sciatic and from everything I've read, so far that seems to be the culprit. Nickhead I seem to have nearly identical symptoms and location of my areas of pain. In addition to the top area of my left hip being in severe pain if I move the wrong way or get stagnant for too long, I've had burning pain in my neck and shoulder blades from 25 years of computer bad posture by "hunching" my shoulders and my trapezoids are like two rocks, over developed. I am very POOR at stretching and need to do that more often! I know people who practice yoga or Pilates their whole life rarely suffer from back or joint pain or pulled muscles due to the stretching and conditioning they achieve. Time to make a decision to take action because this isn't getting better and I doubt it's going to suddenly cure itself! __________________ *"The only difference between sex for free and sex for money is that sex for free costs you a WHOLE LOT more!"* ~Redd Foxx~ ~~2018 2019 2020 20212022 2023~~ 2024 Adopt a Chief - Clark Hunt and Brett Veach "The men who drafted Patrick Mahomes"
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10-18-2018, 10:17 AM	#27
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