2019 Free agency Thread

[O.city]

We don't really have one of these yet, so figured we could use this as a place to discuss potential free agent acquisitions and what we would like to look for them to bring in.

If any of you guys are interested, heres a good place to do some research.

https://overthecap.com/

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by In58men

Yeah but I think having him back up Rivers for a few years would be good for him. Rodgers sat behind Brett Farve for 3 seasons. And Steve Young sat behind Montana for 4 seasons.

Different era though.

The Mahomes/Smith model is by far the best.

At this point, you'd only have 4 seasons of control. You'll use 2-3 of them on the bench.

That only leaves 1-2 years before you'll have to pay him. That's a very small sample size of live action play. And hell, he may need those years just to get the experience.

And even mediocre QB's get paid. A young QB, mediocre or not, will break the bank.

I think it's a mistake for the Chargers as the investment is too early.

Not that i care. Go ahead, Chargers, do it.

As a side note, Rivers is more Favre like as a "Mentor". I've listened to his interviews and he's basically a "I got a job to do, don't get in my way" kinda QB. He views this as his team and every pick and acquisition should go towards helping him win before he retires.

He's not gonna be all open arms about grooming his replacement. It's not in his DNA.

[Iconic]

The #Vikings and WR Adam Thielen agreed on a 4-year deal worth $64M with $73M maximum, per his agent Blake Baratz on Instagram. He gets $35M guaranteed. pic.twitter.com/WPaMYlmJ55

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) April 12, 2019

16m per

[In58men]

Well deserved

[In58men]

OTAs in 3 days.

Does Hill show up?

[Kiimo]

I'd suggest he'll either make or break it

[In58men]

Arrowhead Pride latest mock

29. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, safety
Unfortunately for us, the run on EDGEs ended way before we could select one. Clelin Ferrell was off the board in the first half of round one. Defensive lineman Jerry Tillery came off the board at 20 and Byron Murphy went next. There wasn’t a trade-up opportunity to get those guys either. Gardner-Johnson and Garrett Bradbury were both available. We tried to trade back and acquire another top-120 pick.

Gardner-Johnson was the highest graded player on the board. We’d have preferred not to select a safety this high (you’ll see why later, so keep reading), but backed into a corner, we still got a good football player.

TRADE UP: 40. Justin Layne, cornerback
We elected to aggressively move up to guarantee that we added a cornerback into the mix. We could have sat and let the board fall, but that would be risky.

We traded picks 61, 92 and 167 to Buffalo for picks 40 and 181 to add either Amani Oruwariye or Layne. Both are graded similarly, but we like the upside of Layne to develop.

63. Anthony Nelson, EDGE
The downfalls of drafting a safety in the first round showed itself here. Maryland safety Darnell Savage was available here at 63. The gap between Gardner-Johnson and Savage isn’t enormous. Savage would have been excellent value here.

We couldn’t get out of day two without addressing the defensive end position. We had to choose between Nelson and Texas EDGE Charles Omenihu. Ultimately, we chose to go with the player with a little more ability against the run.


181. Porter Gustin, EDGE/linebacker
Gustin was good value here this late in the draft. He could be a SAM linebacker with additional pass rush ability or potentially hold up at defensive end. He’s a more flexible pass rusher than what the Chiefs currently have on the roster. We chose between Gustin and Hawaii linebacker Jahlani Tavai.

201. Jahlani Tavai, linebacker
Lucky for us, a player we considered at 181 was still available. Tavai has SAM potential as well but could also play as a mike linebacker as well. You’re getting the full spectrum at the SAM potentially with these two. Tavai has special teams potential as well and can fill in as a backup.

214. Keelan Doss, wide receiver
Small school prospect that was highly productive in his time at UC-Davis. He impressed at the Senior Bowl. Doss is tremendous value this late in the exercise. Doss would make the Chiefs 53-man roster and have a chance to develop into an excellent weapon for Patrick Mahomes moving forward.

216. Trevon Wesco, fullback/tight end
Positional versatility, high football character. Wesco is an excellent blocker that flashed route-running ability and soft hands at the Senior Bowl.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/platf...mpression=true

I give this mock a C+

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

AP doesn't even begin to understand Veach.

D-

[nychief]

Originally Posted by In58men

Arrowhead Pride latest mock

29. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, safety
Unfortunately for us, the run on EDGEs ended way before we could select one. Clelin Ferrell was off the board in the first half of round one. Defensive lineman Jerry Tillery came off the board at 20 and Byron Murphy went next. There wasn’t a trade-up opportunity to get those guys either. Gardner-Johnson and Garrett Bradbury were both available. We tried to trade back and acquire another top-120 pick.

Gardner-Johnson was the highest graded player on the board. We’d have preferred not to select a safety this high (you’ll see why later, so keep reading), but backed into a corner, we still got a good football player.

TRADE UP: 40. Justin Layne, cornerback
We elected to aggressively move up to guarantee that we added a cornerback into the mix. We could have sat and let the board fall, but that would be risky.

We traded picks 61, 92 and 167 to Buffalo for picks 40 and 181 to add either Amani Oruwariye or Layne. Both are graded similarly, but we like the upside of Layne to develop.

63. Anthony Nelson, EDGE
The downfalls of drafting a safety in the first round showed itself here. Maryland safety Darnell Savage was available here at 63. The gap between Gardner-Johnson and Savage isn’t enormous. Savage would have been excellent value here.

We couldn’t get out of day two without addressing the defensive end position. We had to choose between Nelson and Texas EDGE Charles Omenihu. Ultimately, we chose to go with the player with a little more ability against the run.


181. Porter Gustin, EDGE/linebacker
Gustin was good value here this late in the draft. He could be a SAM linebacker with additional pass rush ability or potentially hold up at defensive end. He’s a more flexible pass rusher than what the Chiefs currently have on the roster. We chose between Gustin and Hawaii linebacker Jahlani Tavai.

201. Jahlani Tavai, linebacker
Lucky for us, a player we considered at 181 was still available. Tavai has SAM potential as well but could also play as a mike linebacker as well. You’re getting the full spectrum at the SAM potentially with these two. Tavai has special teams potential as well and can fill in as a backup.

214. Keelan Doss, wide receiver
Small school prospect that was highly productive in his time at UC-Davis. He impressed at the Senior Bowl. Doss is tremendous value this late in the exercise. Doss would make the Chiefs 53-man roster and have a chance to develop into an excellent weapon for Patrick Mahomes moving forward.

216. Trevon Wesco, fullback/tight end
Positional versatility, high football character. Wesco is an excellent blocker that flashed route-running ability and soft hands at the Senior Bowl.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/platf...mpression=true

I give this mock a C+

These guys doing cos play GM is the sweet spot of sad.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by In58men

Arrowhead Pride latest mock

29. Chauncey Gardner-Johnson, safety
Unfortunately for us, the run on EDGEs ended way before we could select one. Clelin Ferrell was off the board in the first half of round one. Defensive lineman Jerry Tillery came off the board at 20 and Byron Murphy went next. There wasn’t a trade-up opportunity to get those guys either. Gardner-Johnson and Garrett Bradbury were both available. We tried to trade back and acquire another top-120 pick.

Gardner-Johnson was the highest graded player on the board. We’d have preferred not to select a safety this high (you’ll see why later, so keep reading), but backed into a corner, we still got a good football player.

TRADE UP: 40. Justin Layne, cornerback
We elected to aggressively move up to guarantee that we added a cornerback into the mix. We could have sat and let the board fall, but that would be risky.

We traded picks 61, 92 and 167 to Buffalo for picks 40 and 181 to add either Amani Oruwariye or Layne. Both are graded similarly, but we like the upside of Layne to develop.

63. Anthony Nelson, EDGE
The downfalls of drafting a safety in the first round showed itself here. Maryland safety Darnell Savage was available here at 63. The gap between Gardner-Johnson and Savage isn’t enormous. Savage would have been excellent value here.

We couldn’t get out of day two without addressing the defensive end position. We had to choose between Nelson and Texas EDGE Charles Omenihu. Ultimately, we chose to go with the player with a little more ability against the run.


181. Porter Gustin, EDGE/linebacker
Gustin was good value here this late in the draft. He could be a SAM linebacker with additional pass rush ability or potentially hold up at defensive end. He’s a more flexible pass rusher than what the Chiefs currently have on the roster. We chose between Gustin and Hawaii linebacker Jahlani Tavai.

201. Jahlani Tavai, linebacker
Lucky for us, a player we considered at 181 was still available. Tavai has SAM potential as well but could also play as a mike linebacker as well. You’re getting the full spectrum at the SAM potentially with these two. Tavai has special teams potential as well and can fill in as a backup.

214. Keelan Doss, wide receiver
Small school prospect that was highly productive in his time at UC-Davis. He impressed at the Senior Bowl. Doss is tremendous value this late in the exercise. Doss would make the Chiefs 53-man roster and have a chance to develop into an excellent weapon for Patrick Mahomes moving forward.

216. Trevon Wesco, fullback/tight end
Positional versatility, high football character. Wesco is an excellent blocker that flashed route-running ability and soft hands at the Senior Bowl.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/platf...mpression=true

I give this mock a C+

That would be pretty rough. I like CGJ and haven't tried to hide it, but I think I'd wait it out in hopes of landing him with the 2nd pick. If they don't, oh well.

[The Franchise]

What is the point of drafting two SAM LBs if we already have two on the roster?

[New World Order]

The weakest position in this defense is MLB. I am not watching Ragland bounce off Phillip Lindsay and completely whiff on James White out in the flat again.

They have to address that in rounds 1 or 2.

[Chief Northman]

Originally Posted by New World Order

The weakest position in this defense is MLB. I am not watching Ragland bounce off Phillip Lindsay and completely whiff on James White out in the flat again.

They have to address that in rounds 1 or 2.

Yes. Surprised this has not gained more traction in the pre-draft talk. Mack Wilson with either of the 2nd round picks would be wise. White/Bush will be long gone....

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Yes. Surprised this has not gained more traction in the pre-draft talk. Mack Wilson with either of the 2nd round picks would be wise. White/Bush will be long gone....

It's not really being addressed because they won't be in a base Defense much and he'll be on the bench when they go into subs.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Yes. Surprised this has not gained more traction in the pre-draft talk. Mack Wilson with either of the 2nd round picks would be wise. White/Bush will be long gone....

Exactly. Which is why no one has talked or mocked LB's in the first or second; there will be nothing worth taking.

[New World Order]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

It's not really being addressed because they won't be in a base Defense much and he'll be on the bench when they go into subs.

They will be in base quite a bit when they play NE.

Hell, draft Mack Wilson and move him in Hitchens' spot when they're in Nickel.

O'daniel and Wilson could be a great LB duo in passing situations.