What bothers you the most about this franchise?

[Best22]

For me, it's easy.

The only NFL franchise with fewer Conference Championship appearances is the Houston Texans (est. 2002). The Chiefs and Lions are tied with 1 (and the Lions are a pure garbage franchise with 1 playoff victory since 1958 and a host of other embarrassment, only franchise in NFL that is clearly inferior to the Chiefs)

Here's why it hurts. With Superbowl wins, well, you have around 30 teams, and the game has only been around since 1966. With our SB IV trophy, we are still on track for one every 32 years. Okay then. I don't see that as a proper way to show the Chiefs incompetence as a franchise

But the AFCCG. There are 16 AFC teams. That means 1 of 8 teams play in it. So, mathematically, we should be there once every 8 years. Instead, for KC it has been once every 48 years. That's what bothers me the most about this franchise. Chargers have been there 4 times. Donks and Faiders, lol, I ain't counting all that

So get a team that is actually capable of winning big in the playoffs and maybe just maybe we will appear in that game once again...

[notorious]

Dane crushed it.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by notorious

Dane crushed it.

Yes he did! Good job Dane!

As I was reading it of all of the previous coaches I thought to myself "he's leaving Andy off of the list" but drove it home at the end.

I have a bad feeling about Andy still running this team. I have brought it up here that as long as he is here even with Mahomes, nothing will change. I've been told otherwise, but I will have to see if it happens first. I just pray I'm wrong. Losing out on the talent potential with Mahomes would be a travesty, but certainly would be something this organization would do.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What bothers me most? Ownership.

Lamar Hunt founded the AFL and hired a brilliant mind in Hank Stram. The Chiefs appeared in the first Super Bowl and won the 4th Super Bowl. But it seems like winning that Super Bowl mellowed Hunt's passion for a winner.

He fired Hank Stram, allowed the roster to become old and hired two uninspired head coaches in Paul Wiggin and Tom Bettis. He finally decided to go back to his roots and hire Marv Levy, he fired him just as he was turning the team around (and admitted later that it was his biggest mistake). He allowed a young Bill Polian to leave the front office but at least hired another young, innovative coach in John Mackovic, drafted a QB, only to fire Mackovic after the Chiefs first playoff appearance in 15 years.

After the brief Frank Gansz debacle, in which Nick Lowery led a player revolt, Hunt began to "Play It Safe", first by hiring Carl Peterson, then Marty Schottenheimer. The next 15 years, the Chiefs "played it safe" by hiring Gunther Cunningham, Dick Vermiel, Herm Edwards, Romeo Crennel and Andy Reid. Todd Haley was the only "inspired" hire but anyone with a ****ing brain could see from his time in Arizona that he was a ticking time bomb and in no way, shape or form had the mental makeup to be a head coach.

So, as the Chiefs traded for yet another veteran QB, while watching former coaches reach the Super Bowl (Cowher was the first, now Pederson), the franchise is a mess, the roster, even after 5 full years of Reid and Dorsey, is chock full of holes, leaving overpaid and old veterans with more than $80 million in Dead Cap money accrued during Dorsey's tenure, the Chiefs are at a standstill, once again.

With a Playoff Franchise Record of 9-18, 4 losses of which have come during Andy Reid's tenure, this team is once again stuck in neutral and has nowhere near a championship level defense in order to make a serious Super Bowl Run.

I have zero hope and zero expectations that any of that changes in the next 5 years and based on the last 50, it'll likely never, ever change.

It's like you just mind raped me.

[rico]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What bothers me most? Ownership.

Lamar Hunt founded the AFL and hired a brilliant mind in Hank Stram. The Chiefs appeared in the first Super Bowl and won the 4th Super Bowl. But it seems like winning that Super Bowl mellowed Hunt's passion for a winner.

He fired Hank Stram, allowed the roster to become old and hired two uninspired head coaches in Paul Wiggin and Tom Bettis. He finally decided to go back to his roots and hire Marv Levy, he fired him just as he was turning the team around (and admitted later that it was his biggest mistake). He allowed a young Bill Polian to leave the front office but at least hired another young, innovative coach in John Mackovic, drafted a QB, only to fire Mackovic after the Chiefs first playoff appearance in 15 years.

After the brief Frank Gansz debacle, in which Nick Lowery led a player revolt, Hunt began to "Play It Safe", first by hiring Carl Peterson, then Marty Schottenheimer. The next 15 years, the Chiefs "played it safe" by hiring Gunther Cunningham, Dick Vermiel, Herm Edwards, Romeo Crennel and Andy Reid. Todd Haley was the only "inspired" hire but anyone with a ****ing brain could see from his time in Arizona that he was a ticking time bomb and in no way, shape or form had the mental makeup to be a head coach.

So, as the Chiefs traded for yet another veteran QB, while watching former coaches reach the Super Bowl (Cowher was the first, now Pederson), the franchise is a mess, the roster, even after 5 full years of Reid and Dorsey, is chock full of holes, leaving overpaid and old veterans with more than $80 million in Dead Cap money accrued during Dorsey's tenure, the Chiefs are at a standstill, once again.

With a Playoff Franchise Record of 9-18, 4 losses of which have come during Andy Reid's tenure, this team is once again stuck in neutral and has nowhere near a championship level defense in order to make a serious Super Bowl Run.

I have zero hope and zero expectations that any of that changes in the next 5 years and based on the last 50, it'll likely never, ever change.

"Dammit, Danie....Why do you gotta get all smart on us?!?!"

[rico]

Originally Posted by hitchief

Really? that's what you come up with?

Not even true but fits your narrative so its got that going for you.

Always boils down to the management no matter in the NFL or the business world. Ownership has been pretty nonexistent and has let the GM and HC run the show so it falls on those 2 positions to get the right players and then put those players in the best position to succeed. Andy just does not have the ability to coach his way out of box. Never holds anyone or even unit accountable for anything, ever!

Just look at the Pats, yes they have Brady but that game yesterday was a great example of in game adjustments and how that team fights on both sides of the ball. They all know their jobs and are accountable and if they don't preform they are gone. D made huge plays in the second half to keep them in the game and then win it at the very end. Brady makes tons of throws mostly very good but for gods sake did you see the wr's laying out for some of those throws? Every dam player made a play when it counted and I've never seen this team even come close to an effort like that one by them yesterday.

Sometimes I wonder why we have an up/down vote option for posts.

Then I come across posts like this and I totally see the merit in the downvote.

[RunKC]

You guys don’t see a trend? Okay coaches have left here and had success. What was the difference?

Bill Cowher-Ben Roethlisberger
Tony Dungy-Peyton Manning
Mike McCarthy-Aaron Rodgers
Marv Levy-Jim Kelly
Doug Pederson-Carson Wentz

You see the big picture now? The biggest problem by this franchise was solved last year when they finally did what was needed to be done.

Every playoff game we’ve lost (aside from the most recent) was because we didn’t have the better QB. It’s no damn secret that the only time we had any consistent playoff success since 1970 was when Joe Montana was leading us.

[Ragged Robin]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

What bothers me most? Ownership.

Lamar Hunt founded the AFL and hired a brilliant mind in Hank Stram. The Chiefs appeared in the first Super Bowl and won the 4th Super Bowl. But it seems like winning that Super Bowl mellowed Hunt's passion for a winner.

He fired Hank Stram, allowed the roster to become old and hired two uninspired head coaches in Paul Wiggin and Tom Bettis. He finally decided to go back to his roots and hire Marv Levy, he fired him just as he was turning the team around (and admitted later that it was his biggest mistake). He allowed a young Bill Polian to leave the front office but at least hired another young, innovative coach in John Mackovic, drafted a QB, only to fire Mackovic after the Chiefs first playoff appearance in 15 years.

After the brief Frank Gansz debacle, in which Nick Lowery led a player revolt, Hunt began to "Play It Safe", first by hiring Carl Peterson, then Marty Schottenheimer. The next 15 years, the Chiefs "played it safe" by hiring Gunther Cunningham, Dick Vermiel, Herm Edwards, Romeo Crennel and Andy Reid. Todd Haley was the only "inspired" hire but anyone with a ****ing brain could see from his time in Arizona that he was a ticking time bomb and in no way, shape or form had the mental makeup to be a head coach.

So, as the Chiefs traded for yet another veteran QB, while watching former coaches reach the Super Bowl (Cowher was the first, now Pederson), the franchise is a mess, the roster, even after 5 full years of Reid and Dorsey, is chock full of holes, leaving overpaid and old veterans with more than $80 million in Dead Cap money accrued during Dorsey's tenure, the Chiefs are at a standstill, once again.

With a Playoff Franchise Record of 9-18, 4 losses of which have come during Andy Reid's tenure, this team is once again stuck in neutral and has nowhere near a championship level defense in order to make a serious Super Bowl Run.

I have zero hope and zero expectations that any of that changes in the next 5 years and based on the last 50, it'll likely never, ever change.

but i thought Mahomes made us an instant SB contendor

Originally Posted by RunKC

You guys don’t see a trend? Okay coaches have left here and had success. What was the difference?

Bill Cowher-Ben Roethlisberger
Tony Dungy-Peyton Manning
Mike McCarthy-Aaron Rodgers
Marv Levy-Jim Kelly
Doug Pederson-Carson Wentz

You see the big picture now? The biggest problem by this franchise was solved last year when they finally did what was needed to be done.

Every playoff game we’ve lost (aside from the most recent) was because we didn’t have the better QB. It’s no damn secret that the only time we had any consistent playoff success since 1970 was when Joe Montana was leading us.

this list kind of works against you as Manning has a totally shit post season record (especially with the Colts), Kelly has a totally shit SB record, Wentz's backup is leading the team and is putting up the same numbers

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

but i thought Mahomes made us an instant SB contendor

An Alex Only Fans referring to the Chiefs organization as "us"

[notorious]

The exceptions are not the rule.

[CoMoChief]

The Hunt family.

There's absolutely ZERO reason to ignore the most important position in all of team sports for 30 something ****ing years.

That ended w/ Mahomes...but again...it took more than 30 yrs.

Hunts don't really care about winning. They want TV deals, SaluteTheTroop$ from your DoD tax dollars, parking revenue and butts in the seats.

They've been milking the "We're almost there" business model for decades now...because that's as far as some other team's retread will take them. Guaranteed to win 8-10 games, maybe sprinkle in a playoff appearance once every 5 yrs to help keep the fan's interest. Look no further as to why King Carl was the LTGMIPS until he retired after 08.

Only reason why this last playoff failure wasn't the final nail in the coffin for my Chiefs fandom is because Mahomes was drafted. If they didn't draft a QB last or this next draft, I would have been done all together w/ the Chiefs, and most likely the NFL all together.

[Saleenman607]

But wait.................

We have the loudest stadium in the NFL