Have NFL defenses fully adjusted to the RPO?

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I don’t know that those stats are right. They ran RPO on 5 plays in their first 3 drives on Sunday.

Yeah I don't know what they're basing that off of, maybe the first half of the 1st game?

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I don’t know that those stats are right. They ran RPO on 5 plays in their first 3 drives on Sunday.

I know.

I actually watch the games and have a triple digit IQ, too.

[T-post Tom]

Not a fan of the current use of RPO for many of the reasons already posted here by the good folks at CP. Would love for someone in the media to ask Andy his thoughts on the Chiefs’ use of RPO so far this season….and going forward.

[Otter]

If I were to apply my knowledge of high school sophomore experience into the pros:

Patrick is a master of improv. Work with that and west coast offense.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Otter

If I were to apply my knowledge of high school sophomore experience into the pros:

Patrick is a master of improv. Work with that and west coast offense.

My thoughts are the same.

Exact same.

Big same.

When the play breaks down, Patrick will always be Patrick, and you don't "coach that out of him."

Do what Reid's mentor Mike Holmgren did with Favre, harness it and marry it to some rigid discipline, then stick around for hopefully more than one SB win.

[rabblerouser]

All this talk about "Jet Chip WASP" makes me want to magnify Eric Beinemy's great contribution to the legacy :




"You wanna run WASP?"
*clicks headset*
"He wanna run WASP. Yeah, he likes WASP."

That's it. ****, gimme a headset, I can literally do exactly that.
Probably wouldn't even need a full month.

Came across Jason Shitlock spitting some truth here :

[rabblerouser]

Looking back at the video, the actual call was :

Trey Right 3 Jet Chip WASP Y Funnel

[ThyKingdomCome15]

With Kareem Hunt the RPO was lethal. Without Kareem defenses just look for the pass for the most part. Not good, we still haven't adjusted.

[emaw1979]

Yes. RPO is largely dead. Use more play action.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by emaw1979

Yes. RPO is largely dead. Use more play action.

Bill Walsh, the architect of the WCO that Andy Reid learned fron Mike Holmgren, LOVED play action pass. Of course, he was a big fan of the "pro-set", 2 flat backs (what he called "Red") with the QB under center.

Very, very rarely did you see Montana in the shotgun, maybe for hail mary passes only, same with Young. I don't think we used the shotgun while Paul Hackett was here, not once.

The shotgun screams "pass" and defenders immediately key on the pass.

Only thing run-fakes off RPO do at this point is give the defense even more time to clamp down on the WRs routes, honestly.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

With Kareem Hunt the RPO was lethal. Without Kareem defenses just look for the pass for the most part. Not good, we still haven't adjusted.

Originally Posted by emaw1979

Yes. RPO is largely dead. Use more play action.

I would love to see us start leaning more Air Coryell with this offense. I feel our line and personnel are good enough and our QB is certainly good enough but running back would be the problem with all the play action that system uses. Jamaal Charles was here a decade too early, dammit.

And yeah, I understand Air Coryell is basically just a mutant of the WCO. That's part of the reason I feel it could work under Reid with Mahomes leading it. You could also make the argument that the RPO is an amalgam of both offenses, and you could also make the argument that the running back position isn't strong enough on this team at the moment to fully incorporate ANY of those three systems to maximum effectiveness.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Bowser

I would love to see us start leaning more Air Coryell with this offense. I feel our line and personnel are good enough and our QB is certainly good enough but running back would be the problem with all the play action that system uses. Jamaal Charles was here a decade too early, dammit.

And yeah, I understand Air Coryell is basically just a mutant of the WCO. That's part of the reason I feel it could work under Reid with Mahomes leading it. You could also make the argument that the RPO is an amalgam of both offenses, and you could also make the argument that the running back position isn't strong enough on this team at the moment to fully incorporate ANY of those three systems to maximum effectiveness.

McKinnon could be the half in a pure WCO, and Clyde would KILL in that Tom Rathman/Kimble Anders role at FB in the flat set.

I'm not talking out my ass when I say that it's the way to go. Hi-Lo concepts, attacking the defense at every level, pre-snap reads...

All these defenses that loaded up to stop deep passes off the RPO these past 3 years would be ****ED.

*RETOOL, MOTHER****ERS*

That should have become the plan the moment the Tyreek trade became real.

[Marcellus]

Here is a stat for the offense. Mahomes is 2nd in the league in EPA per snap. Baltimore is #1.

That’s how “broke” the offense is.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Here is a stat for the offense. Mahomes is 2nd in the league in EPA per snap. Baltimore is #1.

That’s how “broke” the offense is.

Lost to Matt Ryan and the broke-dick Colts.

THAT'S how broke the offense really is.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Lost to Matt Ryan and the broke-dick Colts.

THAT'S how broke the offense really is.

Superior teams losing to inferior teams happens quite often in the NFL.