***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

My stone sales have been better than in past years for the month of April. Normally it picks up the last week of April but people are staying home and want something to do. I'm delivering 3 boulders today.

80% of people aren't covering their face though which is annoying. I do whenever I know I have to interact with a customer. If I have to go in a store I'm covered.

Not sure about stone sales but the local DQ and Sonic are making a killing off the shutdown.

[Donger]

I guess it wasn't the government. My mistake:

https://www.aei.org/research-product...-to-reopening/

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Donger

I know its an overview but they left out a lot of crucial steps and problems that will have to be addressed. First thing would be to have wide spread testing.

We don't need to test 300 million but we do need to test millions more all over the country. We still have healthcare workers that are exposed to covid-19 and cant get a test.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I know its an overview but they left out a lot of crucial steps and problems that will have to be addressed. First thing would be to have wide spread testing.

We don't need to test 300 million but we do need to test millions more all over the country. We still have healthcare workers that are exposed to covid-19 and cant get a test.

See above for the full report.

[O.city]

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-11/...sarah-gilbert/

I’m skeptical but she thinks they can have a vaccine by the fall

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-11/...sarah-gilbert/

I’m skeptical but she thinks they can have a vaccine by the fall

Seems impossible, but who the hell knows. We're just making all this shit up as we go along.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-11/...sarah-gilbert/

I’m skeptical but she thinks they can have a vaccine by the fall

I think the point of clarification is just what it means for a vaccine to be "ready"? I'm by no means an expert, but here's the scale of readiness to me:

1. Does it work?
2. Can it be administered easily?
3. Can it be mass produced at a volume sufficient for vulnerable populations?
4. Can it be mass produced at a volume sufficient for the overall population?
5. At a price that makes it viable for the U.S.?
6. At a price that makes it viable in developing countries?

I think #1 is almost a certainty - there are plenty of options in progress. #2 can likely be accomplished by the fall.

It's #3-#5 that I'm less sure of. And #6 is a big question mark.

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by TLO

Seems impossible, but who the hell knows. We're just making all this shit up as we go along.

This is a very true statement. Things change by the hour.

[petegz28]

Not saying NY is the be all -end all to everything but until their numbers come down no one is going to even think about easing. NY\NJ numbers are half of the deaths we have every day. Those start dropping and the rest don't make it sound quite as scary.

Sticker shock tends to subside if you get my meaning.

[TLO]

Missouri numbers yesterday:

Cases in Missouri: 3,799

Total Deaths: 96

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 42,947
As of 2:00 p.m. CT, April 10

Missouri numbers today:

Cases in Missouri: 4,024

Total Deaths: 109

Patients tested in Missouri (by all labs): approximately 42,947 (not yet updated for 4/11/20)

[BigBeauford]

Some haunting images coming from Russia:

Пиздец. Очередь в больницу в Москву!!! #москва pic.twitter.com/2FHhoD97VL

— Алексей Кириленко (@Kirilenko_a) April 10, 2020

🚑 В Химках образовалась пробка из машин скорой помощи с пациентами, у многих из которых подозревают коронавирус и пневмонию.

Скорые едут в 119 больницу, которая была перепрофилирована для приёма пациентов с COVID-19.#coronavirus #лучшедома #мы24дома #москва24 #м24 pic.twitter.com/XcOisjLDwf

— Москва 24 (@infomoscow24) April 11, 2020

[Bearcat]

Пиздец, indeed.

[BigCatDaddy]

All those are allegedly Corona patients being transported by an emergency ambulance? Seems odd.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

All those are allegedly Corona patients being transported by an emergency ambulance? Seems odd.

Agreed - I didn't think it hit fast enough to need an ambulance.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

Some haunting images coming from Russia:

Пиздец. Очередь в больницу в Москву!!! #москва pic.twitter.com/2FHhoD97VL
— Алексей Кириленко (@Kirilenko_a) April 10, 2020

�� В Химках образовалась пробка из машин скорой помощи с пациентами, у многих из которых подозревают коронавирус и пневмонию.

Скорые едут в 119 больницу, которая была перепрофилирована для приёма пациентов с COVID-19.#coronavirus #лучшедома #мы24дома #москва24 #м24 pic.twitter.com/XcOisjLDwf
— Москва 24 (@infomoscow24) April 11, 2020

Vyglyadit kak fignya dlya menya, tovarishch.