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Old 05-10-2014, 10:16 PM  
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The Chiefs had pressing needs after a rough free agency, and they still have massive questions on the offensive line and at wide receiver. Dee Ford is a nice long-term gamble, but should start his career as a part-time player. Third-round cornerback Phillip Gaines seems more like a developmental prospect. Fourth-round RB/WR/return/cornerback/football player De'Anthony Thomas is a wild card. This was a draft in which the Chiefs needed some instant-impact players, and it's hard to see them here.
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Old 05-11-2014, 10:56 AM   #181
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When you have to refer to him as the kid from Alabama in his second year... yup. Career backup.

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Old 05-11-2014, 10:59 AM   #182
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Staying healthy is something he'll either do right away or he won't. Durability isn't "developed".

I realize that you're thinking down the road but most people here aren't. They're bitching about our current crop of WRs because we didn't get an immediate upgrade.

Sure, hands can be developed but they won't be overnight. Neither Lee nor Moncrief makes this offense better RIGHT NOW, which is precisely what everybody is wanting.
Truth, though it's exactly what we should be thinking of, IMO.

I sure as shit hope that Reid and Dorsey are thinking about it. They put themselves in a spot where they might have a 1-2 year window around 2016 - if they miss it, we're looking way down the road when hopefully the core consists of Houston, Berry, Poe, Cooper, Gaines and Ford.

Notice there wasn't a single offensive core player in that list.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:01 AM   #183
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One can only assume that the coaching staff feels like the skill position players on the offense will be upgrade by virtue of having a complete season under their belts in that system. Me, I can't believe they see either Hemmingway or Jenkins as a legit 2/3 receiver, but hey, that's why I'm not an NFL GM, I guess.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:03 AM   #184
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Ford can definitively rush the passer. This skill alone makes him valuable, and we're not worried about developing this skill set. Foundational skills like learning to catch the ball are not going to be acquired at the highest level; you either have it or you don't.

Health can be a bit of a by-product of luck (at times, anyway). So I see these issues as quite a bit different.
Don't understand the bolded comment. I know he can rush the passer when healthy - the point I was making was developing his other skills. While we can get away with have a pure pass rusher THIS year, he's going to be Hali's replacement NEXT year. And if all he can do is rush the passer, he's going to be an inadequate replacement, IMO.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:04 AM   #185
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One can only assume that the coaching staff feels like the skill position players on the offense will be upgrade by virtue of having a complete season under their belts in that system. Me, I can't believe they see either Hemmingway or Jenkins as a legit 2/3 receiver, but hey, that's why I'm not an NFL GM, I guess.
And I believe I'll get the chance to titty-**** Kate Upton. All I have to do is meet her.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:06 AM   #186
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And I believe I'll get the chance to titty-**** Kate Upton. All I have to do is meet her.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:06 AM   #187
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Don't laugh. My dream is no more unrealistic than theirs.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:08 AM   #188
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Agree.



Agree.

So bottom line, we all sit around hoping JC never gets hurt and AR is able to replace one of the most talented backs in the game.
You're discounting Knile Davis too much IMO, I thought he acquitted himself very nicely in Indy... productive both catching and running.

If he can stay healthy dudes gonna be a good one, he has speed to spare at nearly 230 pounds.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:09 AM   #189
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Don't laugh. My dream is no more unrealistic than theirs.
Yeah, but you got ****ing GAME. Between that and your mad beer pong skills, Upton's boobs are a lock for you.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:13 AM   #190
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Truth, though it's exactly what we should be thinking of, IMO.

I sure as shit hope that Reid and Dorsey are thinking about it. They put themselves in a spot where they might have a 1-2 year window around 2016 - if they miss it, we're looking way down the road when hopefully the core consists of Houston, Berry, Poe, Cooper, Gaines and Ford.

Notice there wasn't a single offensive core player in that list.
Playmakers are playmakers. Can't be too picky about where they play except at QB. Which is why I hate the idea of drafting based on need. The more you try to draft best player available for a limited number of positions, the more likely you are to miss out on playmakers. Marqise Lee would be an awesome addition to this team. But I just don't see his upside being anywhere close to ford's.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:13 AM   #191
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Yeah, but you got ****ing GAME. Between that and your mad beer pong skills, Upton's boobs are a lock for you.
If she sees my Blackjack and Penny Slot skills, I might get all three inputs as well.
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Don't understand the bolded comment. I know he can rush the passer when healthy - the point I was making was developing his other skills. While we can get away with have a pure pass rusher THIS year, he's going to be Hali's replacement NEXT year. And if all he can do is rush the passer, he's going to be an inadequate replacement, IMO.
Could be true. But I also thought that Hali was going to be a bag of dicks transitioning to the 3-4, so I'm not a LB whisperer, apparently.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:23 AM   #193
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Could be true. But I also thought that Hali was going to be a bag of dicks transitioning to the 3-4, so I'm not a LB whisperer, apparently.
Dammit. You gave me the opportunity to post my favorite MS Paint drawing ever - the Bob Stoops "Bag 'O Dicks" from ShaggyBevo.

And I can't ****ing find it.
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Old 05-11-2014, 11:25 AM   #194
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Dammit. You gave me the opportunity to post my favorite MS Paint drawing ever - the Bob Stoops "Bag 'O Dicks" from ShaggyBevo.

And I can't ****ing find it.
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One can only assume that the coaching staff feels like the skill position players on the offense will be upgrade by virtue of having a complete season under their belts in that system. Me, I can't believe they see either Hemmingway or Jenkins as a legit 2/3 receiver, but hey, that's why I'm not an NFL GM, I guess.
Almost verbatim what I would have said.
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