***Official 2020 STL Cardinals Thread***

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

With the addition of Arenado, where do you play Wong?

Is there someone on the Cardinals that would prevent Wong from playing 2B?

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Is there someone on the Cardinals that would prevent Wong from playing 2B?

They still have Edman and whether the fans like it or not, Carpenter is going to get his share of playing time.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

They still have Edman and whether the fans like it or not, Carpenter is going to get his share of playing time.

Thats a yikes from me. Lose defense and OBP with Edman and there's not much more to be said about Carpenter. Just doesn't make sense to go the cheap route and then make a trade for a guy like Arenado. Outside of Arenado and Goldy your entire projected lineup sucks ass when it comes to getting on base.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Thats a yikes from me. Lose defense and OBP with Edman and there's not much more to be said about Carpenter. Just doesn't make sense to go the cheap route and then make a trade for a guy like Arenado. Outside of Arenado and Goldy your entire projected lineup sucks ass when it comes to getting on base.

I'm assuming like Marco Polo said, that the Cardinals are probably assuming that baseball economics are going to keep Nolan from opting out.

Next year Gorman and Libatore will arrive. They seem to be the real deal. Nolan, Gorman, Carlson and Goldschmidt will be the best group of hitters in a lineup we have had in quite a while.

[Jewish Rabbi]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Thats a yikes from me. Lose defense and OBP with Edman and there's not much more to be said about Carpenter. Just doesn't make sense to go the cheap route and then make a trade for a guy like Arenado. Outside of Arenado and Goldy your entire projected lineup sucks ass when it comes to getting on base.

There will be a little bit of a defensive let down, yes, but albeit in a much smaller sample size Edman and Wong have a similar OBP.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Jewish Rabbi

There will be a little bit of a defensive let down, yes, but albeit in a much smaller sample size Edman and Wong have a similar OBP.

Edmans ZiPS projection is like 310 OBP. Edman had a decent OBP his rookie year but he also had a 350 BABIP. With the exception of 2018, Wong has carried a 350 or better OBP since 2017.

There are suggestions that Wong is just a trainwreck waiting to happen as virtually all of his numbers have been declining at the plate for a few years. His xWOBA last season was just 286, but it was a short season and his trajectory was heading up, but it was also the lowest of his career in 2019 at 307 and 309 in 2018. But what are we talking about with Wong? Didi just got 2/24 so what's Wong looking at? 2/18? 2/20? I'd take that gamble to have someone that at least gets on base for Goldy and Arenado.

Ever since Edmans honeymoon phase ended his trajectory has been going down. He similarly doesnt hit the ball hard, like Wong, but he also lost 6 degrees on his launch angle last season and his trajectory is just nothing but a downward arrow.