How I Met Your Mother

[Discuss Thrower]

Spoiler!

Given that Cobie Smulders reportedly cried after reading the final episode plot, I"m going to call my shot and say that the Mother is dead or dying in the year were Ted's telling his kids the story of how he met her/

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Spoiler!

Given that Cobie Smulders reportedly cried after reading the final episode plot, I"m going to call my shot and say that the Mother is dead or dying in the year were Ted's telling his kids the story of how he met her/

oh, that would just make the entire run a complete waste of time for me.

[ragedogg69]

Originally Posted by Guru

oh, that would just make the entire run a complete waste of time for me.

I have to agree. "Kids let me tell you this light hearted tale of how I met you mother, who had just recently died." ugh

I had wanted the twist ending to be adoption and the reveal of the "real" mother, but seeing Cristin Milioti preggers killed any chance of that happening.


Also, can we talk about how miscalculated this Marshall/Lilly fight was by the showrunners? Every discussion I have seen about this is pretty much "well, Marshall should have discussed it before taking the job" then a 4 page rant of every time Lilly has been a bitch on the show.

It is quite amazing to see. After this all plays out, I would love to see an interview question about this. Hopefully, without the Anna Gunn "People who don't like a female characters are just misogynists who think women should serve their husbands."

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by ragedogg69

I have to agree. "Kids let me tell you this light hearted tale of how I met you mother, who had just recently died." ugh

I had wanted the twist ending to be adoption and the reveal of the "real" mother, but seeing Cristin Milioti preggers killed any chance of that happening.


Also, can we talk about how miscalculated this Marshall/Lilly fight was by the showrunners? Every discussion I have seen about this is pretty much "well, Marshall should have discussed it before taking the job" then a 4 page rant of every time Lilly has been a bitch on the show.

It is quite amazing to see. After this all plays out, I would love to see an interview question about this. Hopefully, without the Anna Gunn "People who don't like a female characters are just misogynists who think women should serve their husbands."

True, his judgeship acceptance was contrived to the point where a Redditor noted he took the time to ask if he could video conference, use a giant Jor-El head to officiate, et cetera et cetera but not take the time to make a phone call to Lily to talk about it. But at the same time you have to accept the notion that if he were offered the spot on the bench after such a short time of applying for it, he'd have to take the position.

That being said, the way Lily's actions have been written have opened her up to such hate. While she isn't a bitch per se, she's been made out to be pretty self-centered a lot of the time.

1) Going to San Francisco to find herself and get her art career started: I'll defend this one because at least it's a defensible thing for any person, female or male, to pursue. I'd think that if the writer's so chose, they could have made her career successful instead of not and have her brought back to NYC for Season 2 but postponed her and Marshall's rejoining to build up some tension.

But they didn't, so she came back when Barney flew out to SF to convince her to return because of how bad Marshall was.. even though he was just starting to look like he was moving on when he dated the girl at the coffee shop (Morena Baccarin) which brings me to my next point..

2) Lily broke into the apartment and stalked the coffee shop girl. If you flip the genders on these characters and this looks a hell of a lot creepier. Gender dynamics aside, Lily put the kibosh on him moving on to date someone else. That was part of her reason for going to SF: to find herself out of Marshall. Why can't he do the same?

3) Finally, why I really think Lily deserves to be taken down a peg, is the arc with Marshall working for Barney's bank. He took the job in large part to Lily's monstrous credit card debt, which is fine. However, when Marshall considered staying at said job, Lily attacked him for it because it didn't jive with her idea that Marshall would work as an environmentalist lawyer which is what he had planned up to that point. The ****? So you're fine with him paying off the thousands of dollars racked up in purchases (when she actually does purchase something, remember she does have deft hands when it comes to stealing) but not fine with how he's getting the money? Nuh-uh.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

True, his judgeship acceptance was contrived to the point where a Redditor noted he took the time to ask if he could video conference, use a giant Jor-El head to officiate, et cetera et cetera but not take the time to make a phone call to Lily to talk about it. But at the same time you have to accept the notion that if he were offered the spot on the bench after such a short time of applying for it, he'd have to take the position.

That being said, the way Lily's actions have been written have opened her up to such hate. While she isn't a bitch per se, she's been made out to be pretty self-centered a lot of the time.

1) Going to San Francisco to find herself and get her art career started: I'll defend this one because at least it's a defensible thing for any person, female or male, to pursue. I'd think that if the writer's so chose, they could have made her career successful instead of not and have her brought back to NYC for Season 2 but postponed her and Marshall's rejoining to build up some tension.

But they didn't, so she came back when Barney flew out to SF to convince her to return because of how bad Marshall was.. even though he was just starting to look like he was moving on when he dated the girl at the coffee shop (Morena Baccarin) which brings me to my next point..

2) Lily broke into the apartment and stalked the coffee shop girl. If you flip the genders on these characters and this looks a hell of a lot creepier. Gender dynamics aside, Lily put the kibosh on him moving on to date someone else. That was part of her reason for going to SF: to find herself out of Marshall. Why can't he do the same?

3) Finally, why I really think Lily deserves to be taken down a peg, is the arc with Marshall working for Barney's bank. He took the job in large part to Lily's monstrous credit card debt, which is fine. However, when Marshall considered staying at said job, Lily attacked him for it because it didn't jive with her idea that Marshall would work as an environmentalist lawyer which is what he had planned up to that point. The ****? So you're fine with him paying off the thousands of dollars racked up in purchases (when she actually does purchase something, remember she does have deft hands when it comes to stealing) but not fine with how he's getting the money? Nuh-uh.

Pretty much this. I'm on Marshall's side on this.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

True, his judgeship acceptance was contrived to the point where a Redditor noted he took the time to ask if he could video conference, use a giant Jor-El head to officiate, et cetera et cetera but not take the time to make a phone call to Lily to talk about it. But at the same time you have to accept the notion that if he were offered the spot on the bench after such a short time of applying for it, he'd have to take the position.

It just seems to me that someone his age with his relatively short career as a lawyer would never be offered a judgeship, especially in NYC where there are likely hundreds, maybe thousands, of far more qualified lawyers. Seems really far-fetched.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by splatbass

It just seems to me that someone his age with his relatively short career as a lawyer would never be offered a judgeship, especially in NYC where there are likely hundreds, maybe thousands, of far more qualified lawyers. Seems really far-fetched.

I know of a lawyer who couldn't have been more than 40 when he took a municipal judgeship dealing with traffic violations. The HIMYM cast is about in their mid-30s.. He *did* go to Columbia Law.. Perhaps his work with GNB / Barney's meddling got him early consideration.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by ragedogg69

I have to agree. "Kids let me tell you this light hearted tale of how I met you mother, who had just recently died." ugh

I had wanted the twist ending to be adoption and the reveal of the "real" mother, but seeing Cristin Milioti preggers killed any chance of that happening.


Also, can we talk about how miscalculated this Marshall/Lilly fight was by the showrunners? Every discussion I have seen about this is pretty much "well, Marshall should have discussed it before taking the job" then a 4 page rant of every time Lilly has been a bitch on the show.

It is quite amazing to see. After this all plays out, I would love to see an interview question about this. Hopefully, without the Anna Gunn "People who don't like a female characters are just misogynists who think women should serve their husbands."

It's basically the Jim-Pam fight during Season 9 of The Office, but instead of a fifteen episode arc leading up to the fight, they decided to condense it down to one episode.

[ragedogg69]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

It's basically the Jim-Pam fight during Season 9 of The Office, but instead of a fifteen episode arc leading up to the fight, they decided to condense it down to one episode.

I stopped watching the office by then. What was the fight about?

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by ragedogg69

I stopped watching the office by then. What was the fight about?

In the first episode of the ninth season, Jim helped launch a start-up company (a sports agency) based in Philadelphia without fully conveying the level of this commitment to Pam. Eventually, he had to start working part time in Philadelphia but did not give Pam a true idea of how involved he would have to be with that company.

Episode 12 culminated in a huge fight between Jim and Pam while Jim was in Philadelphia (both John Krasinski and Jenna Fischer were lauded for their performances here) and through the remainder of Season 9 they focused on rekindling their relationship (while many assumed (correctly) that they would wind up back together, the relationship was quite calamitous for a while).

Overall, Season 9 of The Office vastly exceeded my expectations leading into the season. It had some low moments/episodes, but the last three episodes (especially the finale) are definitely worth a watch if you have not seen them already.

[ragedogg69]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

In the first episode of the ninth season, Jim helped launch a start-up company (a sports agency) based in Philadelphia without fully conveying the level of this commitment to Pam. Eventually, he had to start working part time in Philadelphia but did not give Pam a true idea of how involved he would have to be with that company.

Episode 12 culminated in a huge fight between Jim and Pam while Jim was in Philadelphia (both John Krasinski and Jenna Fischer were lauded for their performances here) and through the remainder of Season 9 they focused on rekindling their relationship (while many assumed (correctly) that they would wind up back together, the relationship was quite calamitous for a while).

Overall, Season 9 of The Office vastly exceeded my expectations leading into the season. It had some low moments/episodes, but the last three episodes (especially the finale) are definitely worth a watch if you have not seen them already.

Yeah I watched the last few episodes and the amazing finale. They had that one line regarding Pam being blamed for the fight that I didnt get, so that is why I asked.

I bailed on the office in the middle of Season 8. Sounds like I didnt miss anything good.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by ragedogg69

I stopped watching the office by then. What was the fight about?

Admittedly, I've only been passively following this season of HIMYM, and the episodes I've seen didn't mention Marshall's new job. I now see that Marshall actually brought this up in the first episode of the season (rather than it being introduced in the last episode).

I still believe their marital issues mirror Jim and Pam's in the last season of The Office (which, as Vulture points out, was similar to the marital problems seen in the last season of Friday Night Lights).