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Old 11-08-2019, 10:23 AM   #1
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Why is it that risky? If Moore looks like ass, you could bring in Mahomes after the first drive. The worst-case scenario would be you end up being down by 7 before Mahomes touches the ball, and the best-case scenario is that Mahomes gets an extra week of rest.
If Mahomes is healthy enough that you trust he can come in if Moore gets injured or plays like crap then he should be the starter. Why is this concept so hard to understand? If he's healthy enough to play, he plays. He is the starting QB. He is the team leader. He is, by far, the most talented QB on this team. He is the most talented QB in the NFL. You don't sit that kind of player if he is able to play.
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Old 11-08-2019, 10:34 AM   #2
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If Mahomes is healthy enough that you trust he can come in if Moore gets injured or plays like crap then he should be the starter. Why is this concept so hard to understand? If he's healthy enough to play, he plays. He is the starting QB. He is the team leader. He is, by far, the most talented QB on this team. He is the most talented QB in the NFL. You don't sit that kind of player if he is able to play.


Is he more likely to get hurt this week than he would be next week? It sounds like the answer is a definite yes, though the difference may be slight.

Do we need him to beat the Titans? Seems unlikely, but out of caution you could have him available as a backup.

That's about all it comes down to for me. Yes, he CAN play. I don't think there's much of a doubt about that. But if we can protect him a bit and make sure he's in GREAT shape rather than just OK shape, that seems like a win to me.
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Old 11-08-2019, 10:49 AM   #3
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Is he more likely to get hurt this week than he would be next week? It sounds like the answer is a definite yes, though the difference may be slight.

Do we need him to beat the Titans? Seems unlikely, but out of caution you could have him available as a backup.

That's about all it comes down to for me. Yes, he CAN play. I don't think there's much of a doubt about that. But if we can protect him a bit and make sure he's in GREAT shape rather than just OK shape, that seems like a win to me.
Exactly the case.
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Old 11-08-2019, 12:15 PM   #4
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Why is it that risky? If Moore looks like ass, you could bring in Mahomes after the first drive. The worst-case scenario would be you end up being down by 7 before Mahomes touches the ball, and the best-case scenario is that Mahomes gets an extra week of rest.
I agree. While we all want PMII in the game, how does he really feel? Just because he's "medically cleared" doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy. I don't have a whole lot of faith in our medical staff right now.
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:17 AM   #5
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Nick, your whole premise is off. If he’s 100%, there is zero reason to not play him. 100% means 100%. There is just no logic to not playing him if he’s healthy. If he’s not 100%, sure don’t play him.
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:20 AM   #6
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:23 AM   #7
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Mahomes may not be the silver bullet

He played in two of those 3 losses and lost.
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:33 AM   #8
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Mahomes may not be the silver bullet

He played in two of those 3 losses and lost.
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Mahomes may not be the silver bullet

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IF HE IS HEALTHY HE NEEDS TO PLAY.

This is the NFL, the any given Sunday league. And in case you haven’t noticed, the Faid are riding our asses. You don’t just healthy scratch elite players in this league.
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If he’s able to be the backup, start him.

If he’s the backup at any slip up on offense everyone will be looking for him to come in. No reason for that, just start him or don’t dress him
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Old 11-08-2019, 10:50 AM   #13
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Where has it been said another week does that much difference?
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Where has it been said another week does that much difference?
The risk of reinjury for that particularly injury decreases as time goes on. It's obviously on a curve, so the difference from Week 1 to Week 2 is huge, the difference between Week 2 to Week 3 is substantial, and the differences become more and more slight after that. Just making numbers up to illustrate the point, the chances of reinjury might go something like 80%, 40%, 20%, 10%, 5%, 2.5%, 1.25%, 0.75%, etc. It will likely never be 100% without surgery, and it's fairly likely he'll go that route in the offseason.

There are lots of videos about it on the interwebs if you'd like to dig around. The gist is that you can think of those tendons like a rubber band that got stretched out way too far. Give it enough time, and it'll shrink back down to pretty close to the size it's supposed to be, but it takes a while, and it'll never be quite the same as it once was.
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Old 11-08-2019, 10:58 AM   #15
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The risk of reinjury for that particularly injury decreases as time goes on. It's obviously on a curve, so the difference from Week 1 to Week 2 is huge, the difference between Week 2 to Week 3 is substantial, and the differences become more and more slight after that. Just making numbers up to illustrate the point, the chances of reinjury might go something like 80%, 40%, 20%, 10%, 5%, 2.5%, 1.25%, 0.75%, etc. It will likely never be 100% without surgery, and it's fairly likely he'll go that route in the offseason.

There are lots of videos about it on the interwebs if you'd like to dig around. The gist is that you can think of those tendons like a rubber band that got stretched out way too far. Give it enough time, and it'll shrink back down to pretty close to the size it's supposed to be, but it takes a while, and it'll never be quite the same as it once was.
Thank you for explaining it... I have no patience. The quote you produced yesterday should have been good enough for everyone to follow. I'm getting the feeling that those who don't see the common sense of the matter, don't want to.
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