***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BWillie

That's not good actually. Means they can spread it easier. Nonetheless I wouldn't place much stock in prison tests. Prison. Not exactly a pillar of good or no corruption.

If the end game is immunity, wouldn’t you want more people to get it and not actually have symptoms?

[Discuss Thrower]

https://www.who.int/emergencies/dise...w-to-use-masks

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I think more people are saying **** it

I didn't really pick up that vibe, as everyone had a full cart at Ralphs and while there were a few people getting paint, plants and things of that nature, there were dozens of contractors picking up items for their clients.

The vibe that I got was that people weren't as "afraid" as they were a month ago. When this all went down in LA in early March, it seemed like people were "scared". There was no chatter at the grocery stores or Costco or Target or basically anywhere whereas today, people were talking, through a mask obviously, but still talking.

I spoke with several women today and the main topic of conversation was "This is so weird. Everything is just weird. Everything".

It was definitely better than silence.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by O.city

If the end game is immunity, wouldn’t you want more people to get it and not actually have symptoms?

We do , it just might make it harder to keep out of the old age homes when as we open up.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Yeah, you know I'm sure that will be a difficult thing to repeal..

Yeah because it’s not like there are good reasons for states/cities to have anti-mask laws in place.

But everything goes with Corona Madness apparently.

[jdubya]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I didn't really pick up that vibe, as everyone had a full cart at Ralphs and while there were a few people getting paint, plants and things of that nature, there were dozens of contractors picking up items for their clients.

The vibe that I got was that people weren't as "afraid" as they were a month ago. When this all went down in LA in early March, it seemed like people were "scared". There was no chatter at the grocery stores or Costco or Target or basically anywhere whereas today, people were talking, through a mask obviously, but still talking.

I spoke with several women today and the main topic of conversation was "This is so weird. Everything is just weird. Everything".

It was definitely better than silence.

I agree. A month ago it seemed like we were all flinched waiting for the massive blow to punch.......and it never really came, at least not here in the Bay Area. Santa Clara got punched in the mouth a bit but most other counties up here are very quiet.

[banyon]

MSNBC blowing up Lansing correctional facility right now

75% positive, 2 dead

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by BWillie

South Korea with 9 new cases yesterday, after being a hot spot weeks ago. Why?

They wear masks. Everywhere.

That is all we have to do. That's it. Then you guys can go back to work. Whatever you want to do. Mandate masks. This is effectively over. Annoying? Sure. Just masks until vaccine.

Seriously? (Or trolling?). Are you aware of everything South Korea did?

They are tracking everyone on their phone. When you ride the subway, you take a picture of a QR code for that specific train car. If someone else who was on that exact same train car (car, not train) gets covid, they will track down everyone who was exposed and test them.

If you test positive, you get quarantined. This is not voluntarily. If you leave your house you can be subject to penalties. Social workers periodically visit to make sure you are staying there (and your phone also spies on you).

They will also bring you groceries and any other essentials you may need to make it easier to stay quarantined.

The mask may help some, the jury is still out on that. Lots of testing, followed by lots of contact tracing, followed by strictly observed quarantine.

That's all we have to do.

Just saying if we all wear masks we can be like South Korea? No. Unfortunately not.

[JakeLV]

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Seriously? (Or trolling?). Are you aware of everything South Korea did?

They are tracking everyone on their phone. When you ride the subway, you take a picture of a QR code for that specific train car. If someone else who was on that exact same train car (car, not train) gets covid, they will track down everyone who was exposed and test them.

If you test positive, you get quarantined. This is not voluntarily. If you leave your house you can be subject to penalties. Social workers periodically visit to make sure you are staying there (and your phone also spies on you).

They will also bring you groceries and any other essentials you may need to make it easier to stay quarantined.

The mask may help some, the jury is still out on that. Lots of testing, followed by lots of contact tracing, followed by strictly observed quarantine.

That's all we have to do.

Just saying if we all wear masks we can be like South Korea? No. Unfortunately not.

I was actually kicking around the idea of coding this now to keep it private and out of gov’t hands, since I’m confident we wouldn’t get that bit of privacy back. Privately manage, and you agree to allow your contact info out to local health departments when needed for contact testing. Add in TOS that once the pandemic has been handled, all data destroyed and never selling or letting third parties access your data outside of health departments for contact testing.

Don’t know how to get user adoption though.

[O.city]

Leronlimab supposedly showing strong results.

[BWillie]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...virus-n1194786

Six dead at that Ohio prison everyone was talking about that had all the asymptomatic prisoners. As the disease progresses to more outcome, I'm sure we can expect more deaths.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

You can now get tested for free, in drive-thru (something that should have happened by March but I digress) but as far as I know the test for antibodies isn't available yet.

I want one when it is. I'm pretty convinced I had this shit in January

It's available

[Titty Meat]

Lansing prison shows us how out of touch the open everything crow is

[TLO]

Originally Posted by SupDock

It's available

In some places

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

EVERYBODY wears masks in my town.It's mandatory and we have the highest number of cases per capita in the state of Texas. Thanks to JBS!