NFL Is Rigged: Wild Card Round

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

I'm "at the point" that says we don't know that the NFL does or doesn't have part time employees that influence games using the very gray area of whistles. The league has done a lot to make sure certain calls aren't reviewable (part of the gray area), all by a group of people who don't ever appear to be graded and disciplined when they make mistakes.



So when people go to the extreme of saying "it's rigged" (a harsh thing to say) that's one thing, but by the NFL not having any apparent review process of their officials, and if (if....) there is one, it doesn't seem to result in any disciplinary actions for those infractions (making bad calls, calling a game unequally, and supposedly missing calls).



Why? Why is it that these people are evidently above scrutiny? And if people they are scrutinized by their employer, show me proof.



My thought is that they (the officials) don't get specific orders from the league, that would be trackable. I'm more of the mindset that says that in the process of becoming an NFL official that those who are selected aren't solely selected on their knowledge of the complex rule book, and here comes the tinfoil hat comment (!!!), I think they limit the candidates on the tendencies they shown toward understanding not only the rules, but also the business of entertainment.



Yeah, wild, I know... But when you look at the totality of what we see, not that there aren't exceptions, we see week in and week out a lot (but not 100%) officiating that tends to favor the NFL's bottom line and promote NFL-favorable story lines. From blowing whistles if a favored QB gets hit but letting other QBs get pummeled, to calling ticky-tac DPI calls while ignoring WR push-offs.



Again, I'm only suggesting the people who have the ability to greatly influence the outcome of games with their whistles and flags, don't appear to be held to a standard by their employer. The very group that's in charge of holding other league employees to standards. That's an issue.



In before: "Because I have no answer for that (admitting that there's no proof that the NFL holds their officials to any standard, much less a high standard), I'll just claim you're wearing a tinfoil hat and should never watch football again."



"Proof" goes both ways...

Listen, man. I just want statements. You and BlackOp both have a way of making long posts that don't really say shit.

I just need a yes or no. You believe the WhistleGate play yesterday was purposely done by the refs? Be it for profits, entertainment, ratings. You believe it was a purposeful incident?

I'm on record as saying it was an incompetent action by an official. A mistake that may have had an affect on the overall outcome of the game.

If you're saying it was purposeful, why would they choose that way to alter a game outcome. It's a really controversial way to go about it. Why would they not choose a more subtle, acceptable way?

Are you saying they wanted NFL circles talking about that controversy today? Is that what you mean by entertainment?

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by TimBone

Listen, man. I just want statements. You and BlackOp both have a way of making long posts that don't really say shit.

I just need a yes or no. You believe the WhistleGate play yesterday was purposely done by the refs? Be it for profits, entertainment, ratings. You believe it was a purposeful incident?

I'm on record as saying it was an incompetent action by an official. A mistake that may have had an affect on the overall outcome of the game.

If you're saying it was purposeful, why would they choose that way to alter a game outcome. It's a really controversial way to go about it. Why would they not choose a more subtle, acceptable way?

Are you saying they wanted NFL circles talking about that controversy today? Is that what you mean by entertainment?

I'll answer your question, yes, I believe the NFL hires officials who are like-minded and make calls, selectively, to influence the outcome of games to benefit the league's goals of excitement, traditions, storylines, and of growing their product and profits.

Now your turn, do you have proof that the NFL grades the officials? Not suggestions of a program; IOW do you have a grade card to prove they have this program?

I bet you don't. All you have is faith in the face of questionable and timely calls...

[Curé]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

I'm "at the point" that says we don't know that the NFL does or doesn't have part time employees that influence games using the very gray area of whistles. The league has done a lot to make sure certain calls aren't reviewable (part of the gray area), all by a group of people who don't ever appear to be graded and disciplined when they make mistakes.

So when people go to the extreme of saying "it's rigged" (a harsh thing to say) that's one thing, but by the NFL not having any apparent review process of their officials, and if (if....) there is one, it doesn't seem to result in any disciplinary actions for those infractions (making bad calls, calling a game unequally, and supposedly missing calls).

Why? Why is it that these people are evidently above scrutiny? And if people they are scrutinized by their employer, show me proof.

My thought is that they (the officials) don't get specific orders from the league, that would be trackable. I'm more of the mindset that says that in the process of becoming an NFL official that those who are selected aren't solely selected on their knowledge of the complex rule book, and here comes the tinfoil hat comment (!!!), I think they limit the candidates on the tendencies they shown toward understanding not only the rules, but also the business of entertainment.

Yeah, wild, I know... But when you look at the totality of what we see, not that there aren't exceptions, we see week in and week out a lot (but not 100%) officiating that tends to favor the NFL's bottom line and promote NFL-favorable story lines. From blowing whistles if a favored QB gets hit but letting other QBs get pummeled, to calling ticky-tac DPI calls while ignoring WR push-offs.

Again, I'm only suggesting the people who have the ability to greatly influence the outcome of games with their whistles and flags, don't appear to be held to a standard by their employer. The very group that's in charge of holding other league employees to standards. That's an issue.

In before: "Because I have no answer for that (admitting that there's no proof that the NFL holds their officials to any standard, much less a high standard), I'll just claim you're wearing a tinfoil hat and should never watch football again."

"Proof" goes both ways...

i used something called the google. i didn't have to go thru 31 million results. this was result 2:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ir-performance

I wanted to know more, however, so I reached out to former NFL official Jerry Frump, who refereed three regular-season games during the NFL's 2012 lockout of the NFL Referees Association.

"The NFL has a very sophisticated evaluation system," Frump told me. "Every single play is graded."

Every week, Frump told me, every official's performance on every play is reviewed by league staff members with on-field officiating experience. Further, Frump said, there's "a live evaluation being done by somebody on-site," and the report from the observer is taken into account along with the film study grades.

"Just like the players shoot for the postseason," Frump told me, "everybody is looking for ways to improve themselves, because the grading system determines who goes and works the postseason games."

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by Curé

i used something called the google. i didn't have to go thru 31 million results. this was result 2:



https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ir-performance

I've already explained to him that the information is available.

He doesn't want it. He wants to have something to blame when the Chiefs lose.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Curé

i used something called the google. i didn't have to go thru 31 million results. this was result 2:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ir-performance

I've read that before, but there's no proof, and certainly no sign that disciplinary actions were taken for bad/missed calls. Show me a grade card... Otherwise there's no proof of any of this.

I'm not saying there's not a meeting, but I think they show up more for the coffee and donuts more than anything.

And if the only incentive is post-season officiating, well that's pretty weak.. I don't believe the program is much more than a lunch club. If it is more, we'd see more evidence week-to-week that the program is working.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

my record of picking games after they've been completed is 100%

I'm infallible

[BlackOp]

They get information from NYC pumped in their earpieces...that play stood because they wanted it to.

In actuality, I'm not really too concerned about the post season "rigging"...my interest was watching NFL Inc manufacture a 18 game season to the very final play. It was masterful...

Every remaining AFC team will have beaten the Chiefs...hope sells.

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

They get information from NYC pumped in their earpieces...that play stood because they wanted it to.

In actuality, I'm not really too concerned about the post season "rigging"...my interest was watching NFL Inc manufacture a 18 game season to the very final play. It was masterful...

Every remaining AFC team will have beaten the Chiefs...hope sells.

Please post your rigged picks now.

[notorious]

Just once I'd like to watch Brady get his own treatment thrown against him in a game.

[BlackOp]

Originally Posted by notorious

Just once I'd like to watch Brady get his own treatment thrown against him in a game.

It happens when he allows it to happen....like the 2015 AFCCG.

When he doesn't...you get head-scratching games like the Seahawks SB, the Atlanta SB...and last years 27 DPI, KC flag-fest.

Do you really think being shut out by the Saints was legit?

This is why I never touch anything concerning him...

[TimBone]

Originally Posted by BlackOp

It happens when he allows it to happen....like the 2015 AFCCG.



When he doesn't...you get head-scratching games like the Seahawks SB, the Atlanta SB...and last years 27 DPI, KC flag-fest.



Do you really think being shut out by the Saints was legit?



This is why I never touch anything concerning him...

****ing witches, man. They're a bitch.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by notorious

Just once I'd like to watch Brady get his own treatment thrown against him in a game.

That will never happen.


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[WilliamTheIrish]

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[TimBone]

Originally Posted by Red Dawg

I am a BlackOp fan. This place is obsessed with his takes and it's so great. BlackOp for life.

That surprises no one.