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Old 02-28-2024, 10:33 AM  
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NFLPA Survey: Clark rated with an F-

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Old 02-28-2024, 08:37 PM   #226
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Such a BS survey. If an owner makes decisions on the coach/GM/staff that allow your "team" to compete for the Lombardi and the personal glory that it brings for 5 consecutive years, how does that rate a "F-"? I guess you want him to be a drinking buddy and that makes him a better owner?
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Old 02-28-2024, 08:52 PM   #227
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Such a BS survey. If an owner makes decisions on the coach/GM/staff that allow your "team" to compete for the Lombardi and the personal glory that it brings for 5 consecutive years, how does that rate a "F-"? I guess you want him to be a drinking buddy and that makes him a better owner?
Honestly, I think they're misrepresenting this a little. They present it as the players just giving a grade and showing the average, but there's zero chance that our players universally think Clark is the worst owner in sports. We would have heard more of that by now.

Instead, the NFLPA asked players a variety of questions in each category and gave teams a grade based on some preconceived notions of what's important.

So, for example, they might have asked whether a player had ever felt pressured to play through an injury and dinged the training staff if the player said yes. That doesn't mean they necessarily would have given the training staff an F.


The nuance is small but important. I'd love to see their actual survey questions.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:03 PM   #228
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It also sounds like they asked them to give ratings in a 0 to 100 scale. On that type of scale, the tendency is to think of 50 as average, not an F.

It seems like the survey helps to identify the teams that are generally better or worse, but framing it as a letter grade almost certainly makes it all seem worse than it actually is.
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Old 02-28-2024, 09:20 PM   #229
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Reports are saying the low locker room grades are for the training facility not the one at Arrowhead.
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Old 02-29-2024, 01:14 AM   #230
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It also sounds like they asked them to give ratings in a 0 to 100 scale. On that type of scale, the tendency is to think of 50 as average, not an F.

It seems like the survey helps to identify the teams that are generally better or worse, but framing it as a letter grade almost certainly makes it all seem worse than it actually is.
Ah that makes a lot more sense. I noticed the Chiefs rank about average on family, but the grade is only a D+. The F- is probably around a 50, which isn't that big of a deal. No way the whole team is giving Hunt a F-. This is really bad misrepresentation.
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Old 02-29-2024, 03:33 AM   #231
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I don't remember the time line. Didn't Hunt talk about upgrades before the Royals started this entire stadium saga?

Maybe he put upgrades on hold because he was anticipating putting a new practice facility where the K stands now.
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Old 02-29-2024, 04:35 AM   #232
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Old 02-29-2024, 05:16 AM   #233
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Old 02-29-2024, 07:30 AM   #234
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Old 02-29-2024, 07:39 AM   #235
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How big of a chode do you have to be to get an F- from the players? .
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Old 02-29-2024, 07:42 AM   #236
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Clark’s two bedroom penthouse suite at Arrowhead > Chiefs current practice facility.
Lamar built that.

Please stop.
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Old 02-29-2024, 07:52 AM   #237
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Survey: "On a scale of 0 to 100, how would you rate your owner?"

Player: "Oh, he's not great, but he's not awful. I'll give him a 50."

NFLPA: "Clark Hunt gets an F-."


That's how I'm interpreting it anyway. I wish they'd show their detailed questions and methodology.
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