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Old 03-19-2014, 12:19 PM  
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Is 2016 a breaking point for this team?
I was messing around on Rotoworld looking at how long we've got guys under contract. In terms of losing our own players, the 2014 free agency season is basically finished. All we have left is Kendrick Lewis, and it's apparent that we're not bringing him back. So I wanted to see how we were doing for 2015. It's not that good, but it's known from the most recent press conference that Dorsey is currently talking through and working on extensions with Alex Smith and Justin Houston.

Let's take Direckshun's assumptions that he made in his most recent mock draft:

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1. The Chiefs extend QB Alex Smith 6 years, $90m (when you break the numbers down, it will actually break down to 4 years, $60m, with something like $35m guaranteed), and S Eric Berry 6 years, $45m ($23m guaranteed). They will extend Justin Houston at some point during the 2015 season.

2. The Chiefs let walk: WR Kyle Williams, S Kendrick Lewis

3. The Chiefs sign WR/KR Jacoby Ford (Raiders) to a 1 year, $1m deal.
These are the Chiefs who played snaps for the team last year who will become free agents in 2015:

Allen Bailey
Thomas Gafford
Junior Hemingway (Exclusive rights FA)
Rodney Hudson
Rishaw Johnson (RFA)
Josh Martin (Exclusive rights FA)
Dezman Moses (RFA)
Ron Parker
Anthony Sherman

That's nothing to shake a stick at, but this group also doesn't have anybody particularly pertinent on it who would require a lot of money. A guy like Anthony Sherman might ask for a contract more expensive than we're willing to offer, so I think he would walk. Rodney Hudson is supposedly going to be replaced by Eric Kush very soon, so I guess he walks as well. Nobody knows if Hemingway, Martin, and Moses will even be on the team next year. That basically leaves us with Bailey, Gafford, Johnson, and Parker. It would be great to keep any of those players, and they should all be pretty cheap with the possible exception of Bailey.

Direckshun's plan sets us up pretty well into 2015. We'd be spending barely any money to keep our own players. Really, the only guy I can see as a MUST keep is Gafford, and that should be a cheap deal.

Now what about 2016?

Jeff Allen
Donnie Avery
Tyler Bray (RFA)
Jamaal Charles
Chase Daniel
Mike DeVito
Cyrus Gray
Tamba Hali
Jaye Howard
AJ Jenkins
Derrick Johnson
Joe Mays
Sean McGrath
Dontari Poe
Sean Smith
Donald Stephenson
Rokevious Watkins
Frank Zombo

Ehhhhhhhhghggghhhhhh........

You can assume that Charles, DeVito, Hali, and DJ will be much older and feebler at this point, but they're still critical cogs to how this team currently runs. Yes, we'll (hopefully) be acquiring more playmakers through the draft, and yes, there will be some players currently on the team who break out into solid starting players and beyond. But that's still a lot of dudes. Even if you want to argue that current starters like Allen, Avery, Fasano, and Smith would hopefully be replaced by fresher and better players, that means we're still devoting a lot of resources to getting this team "right" instead of planning for the future.

We'll basically be depending on getting 3-4 starters per draft in 2014 and 2015. That's kind of a lot to expect.

I would hope that we could keep Charles around beyond 2016 if he still has gas left for not all that much money. Same goes for DJ. Hali may wind up being a cap casualty before then. We're looking at two starters on the offensive line (Stephenson and Allen) who will need new deals or replacements. Dontari Poe. ****. Dontari Poe. He's a big man, and he'll need a big deal. Daniel and Bray... I mean, who ****ing cares, right? But we still will likely need to spend draft stock on replacements in some way. We need as many draft picks as we can get these next two years. And I'm even looking at Mays, Jenkins, DeVito...

Basically, the stakes are pretty ****ing high by the time we get to 2016. If Dorsey does his homework these next two years, we'll be pretty okay, I think. If he doesn't...

Blow up the ship? Start again?
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Old 03-19-2014, 07:28 PM   #46
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His last 5 games including Indy were very high scoring affairs, he really seemed to have the knack for this team during the final stretch... if it had just been Indy alone I'd say fraud, but it wasnt.

Will it continue? all I can say is that those final five games made my bet easier to make.

So many other worries than this guy right now.
The line looked pretty good down the stretch. Too bad they're starting over from scratch...
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His last 5 games including Indy were very high scoring affairs, he really seemed to have the knack for this team during the final stretch... if it had just been Indy alone I'd say fraud, but it wasnt.

Will it continue? all I can say is that those final five games made my bet easier to make.

So many other worries than this guy right now.
Indy looked different to me because he demonstrated a very high level of feel in the pocket, something that I thought was lacking during the regular season.

At times, during the RS, Smith looked good. In Indy, however, he looked elite. Totally different level, IMO, based on the intangibles.
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It seems odd that people have said on here over and over when this team is spending high picks on OL that you can find competent OL anywhere, yet now the pendulum swings the other way it seems that what the FO is going to do (find it anywhere) and people are up in arms.

It's the OL.
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It seems odd that people have said on here over and over when this team is spending high picks on OL that you can find competent OL anywhere, yet now the pendulum swings the other way it seems that what the FO is going to do (find it anywhere) and people are up in arms.

It's the OL.
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The line looked pretty good down the stretch. Too bad they're starting over from scratch...
Does you think losing Schwartz will hurt that much? I know you've been saying it alot lately, but i thought you were just giving people shit.
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I was as big of a proponent this year about OL continuity (I think the sum of the OL parts is more important than a single talented guy etc) and I got crushed for it.

However, if the FO thinks they can/have developed a guy like Rishaw Johnson into an adequate/above average LG, lets see it.
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Bowe, Flowers, Charles and Hali will fall off a cliff before DJ

DJ has that London Fletcher/Ray Lewis longevity to him. We need a replacement OLB and a new freak playmaker on offense at WR or RB asap

basically we will need a whole new foundation in 2 years once we fully say goodbye to the 2008 class

DJ's game is declining see the game vs the Raiders
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DJ's game is declining see the game vs the Raiders
I do think he still shows some of that "old DJ" at times.
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I was as big of a proponent this year about OL continuity (I think the sum of the OL parts is more important than a single talented guy etc) and I got crushed for it.

However, if the FO thinks they can/have developed a guy like Rishaw Johnson into an adequate/above average LG, lets see it.
It is incredibly difficult to develop a league-average LG. Incredibly difficult. So I'm not sure it's fair to judge Pioli on this in '14.
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It seems odd that people have said on here over and over when this team is spending high picks on OL that you can find competent OL anywhere, yet now the pendulum swings the other way it seems that what the FO is going to do (find it anywhere) and people are up in arms.

It's the OL.
And they might have 5 new starters opening day.
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Hopefully Dorsey trades a guy like Flowers or Hali for a draft pick this year but I dont think any team would take on thos contracts.
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