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Old 09-08-2019, 03:24 PM  
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Evaluate the Defense Game #1
I thought they looked improved from several aspects. Keep in mind this was Jax and not a high-powered offense.

Tackling = Much, MUCH better

Coverage = Tighter. Few plays without a defender right on the WR

Run Defense = Stellar start, let's not get cocky

Pass Defense = Not a ton of pressure today. Missed a huge sack which ended up leading to a TD. Coverage overall was decent. Made a backup look all-world but that happens when a backup comes in mid-game.

Overall it looked like we were more sound fundamentally. Run gaps were getting filled, screens were getting blown up and not a ton of YAC. Hopefully as the season progresses our defense will as well.

Overall grade today: C+
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:24 PM   #301
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Nope.

And look at Wilson flying in there.

Did we actually get a really good player there?
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:26 PM   #302
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Absolutely awesome. Nnadi is a tank. Darron Lee shed Norwell's block.

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Old 09-10-2019, 01:28 PM   #303
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Yeah and Jones isn't really built or suited to anchor and take on double teams.
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Old 09-10-2019, 01:35 PM   #304
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Dee Ford could NEVER do that.
Lots of things don't happen last year.

1) No, Ford doesn't occupy that double team.
2) When #80 peels off, Hitchens is coming hard down the hill and immediately locks him up. He doesn't get walled off and leave Fournette with an easy lane and a lead blocker. Hitchens of last year likely doesn't completely swallow up that TE and keep him from clearing a lane
3) The critical player here - ****ing Wilson is shot out of a cannon in pursuit. Him getting across the formation like that and making that tackle kept that from being a 6-8 yard play before Hitchens and Thornhill finished the play.

Last year Ford gets pushed back and the the LT/TE are probably able to get into Hitchens significantly earlier, allowing the TE to peel upfield. Ragland doesn't get through the wash and so you end up with Fournette and the TE in the open field vs. Lucas. Lucas was always a game run defender but I don't think he gets the tackle there. At best he re-direct Fournette to the middle.

A 3-4 yard gain on that run is probably in the 15+ range on last year's defense and it took strong efforts from Clark/Hitchens (and a damn nice play from Wilson) to blow that up.

Hell of a nice demonstration of team D there.
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Absolutely awesome. Nnadi is a tank. Darron Lee shed Norwell's block.
Yeah, I think it was my first post in this thread where I said Nnadi is a genuine joy to watch play the run.

He's a football nerds dream. If you're not watching him, you'll never know he's there. But man, if you just watch him for a handful of snaps you get a masterclass in run technique and you see just how critical being assignment sound and aware of your limitations is.

If I were to get a present Chiefs jersey, I really think it would be a Nnadi jersey. That guy is a lunchpail player and just seems to do everything right.
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I'm more encouraged after all these clips about the D.

The effort is atleast there this year.
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Another dude we're gonna have to pay - but maybe not as much since he won't be a 10 sack dude.
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I'm more encouraged after all these clips about the D.

The effort is atleast there this year.
You could see an improvement in effort even before these clips. You said it yourself, the tackling is much improved and defenders are flying to the ball. That's effort.
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Yeah and Jones isn't really built or suited to anchor and take on double teams.
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Jones has taken on his share of double-teams in his career ...

BTW, Nnaughti has a great base, but his upper body strength might be his most impressive attribute. Once he gets his hands on you, all you can do is wait to find out if you wind up flying left or right.

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Another dude we're gonna have to pay - but maybe not as much since he won't be a 10 sack dude.
I'd give him the contract that the Saints gave Malcolm Brown the instant he's eligible for it. Very similar players and I think Nnadi will be steadier. Johnathan Hankins is pretty similar.

There's not a huge difference between someone like Brown and someone like, say, Linval Joseph. But Joseph got paid a LOT more. And if you wait until Nnadi fully develops, he'll get paid closer to what Joseph is making (or Brandon Williams). I think you want to get that deal done as soon as you can get him to agree to that Brown/Hankins $5 million/yr AAV level deal.
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Spags and his staff saw big value in Alex Okafor, Damien Wilson, Alex Okafor, Emmanuel Ogbaha and hopefully Darron Lee. So far that appears to be paying off.

This makes me feel good about the future because more of this with another offseason should make the defense that much better each year.
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Jones has taken on his share of double-teams in his career ...

BTW, Nnaughti has a great base, but his upper body strength might be his most impressive attribute. Once he gets his hands on you, all you can do is wait to find out if you wind up flying left or right.

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And Mr. Nnadi will be telling you which directly it's gonna be.

Watch his head - you see him trying to peak around and find the ballcarrier. He's really damn good at it. I don't know how one has an innate 'vision' for something like that but Nnadi has it. That plays an excellent demonstration of it because you can see him looking past the C and trying to wait for the RB to commit to a lane. As soon as Fournette commits, Nnadi just whips the C out of the way and is waiting for him.

Like I said, I really enjoy watching him play.
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Jones has taken on his share of double-teams in his career ...

BTW, Nnaughti has a great base, but his upper body strength might be his most impressive attribute. Once he gets his hands on you, all you can do is wait to find out if you wind up flying left or right.

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He's too tall. He's an athletic gap penetrator.

His pad level is just too high to take on doubles consistently.
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He's too tall. He's an athletic gap penetrator.

His pad level is just too high to take on doubles consistently.
I have no idea why anyone is doubling Jones on a running play anyway.

Nnadi is going to get that respect soon.
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I have no idea why anyone is doubling Jones on a running play anyway.

Nnadi is going to get that respect soon.
That would be better for the Chiefs. Nnadi can hold it up.

Jones would theoretically be able to shed that single blocker and make plays.
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