***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Feeling pretty good today.

Finally found the food supplies I was in dire need of. Having a nice afternoon out with the wife and kid and while no employer will probably hire me till the stay at home is over, so far I've had a bunch of interest from companies for jobs.

Fortunate enough to have some money socked away to be able to keep on keeping on till the order expires.

Thanks to BRC for keeping me in the loop for any possibilities and everyone keep safe.

Spoiler!

sorry no snarky posts or anything today. Enjoy Ubeja!

Got the interest of a "totally not MLM" company where you're required not only to drive business by selling product but can't they outright say you can't make good commissions until you recruit other commissioned salespeople.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Got the interest of a "totally not MLM" company where you're required not only to drive business by selling product but can't they outright say you can't make good commissions until you recruit other commissioned salespeople.

Cutco knives? Lol

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by BWillie

We did it!!!! USA has overtaken Italy for the most Coronavirus cases pushing the Americans into the #2 spot. They are minutes away from overtaking prohibitive favorite & hated rival China for the #1 spot.

USA USA USA USA USA USA!!

The number in the far right column that you cut off is really the important one.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Cutco knives? Lol

No they're (purporting) to be small business lenders, but as far as I know that field is locked up pretty tightly and I'm pretty sure they don't cut your ass if you don't make sales goals in one month.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

No they're (purporting) to be small business lenders, but as far as I know that field is locked up pretty tightly and I'm pretty sure they don't cut your ass if you don't make sales goals in one month.

Oh they will. Just keep looking IMO.

If you're looking at sales, I see Selectquote is hiring like bandits. Good way to get in the ins biz and move onto something better in a year.

[FloridaMan88]

Maybe it is just semantics, but I think this is a good reason to not issue a "shelter-in-place" order...

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...241515451.html

The city of Miami issued a shelter-in-place order earlier this week, but Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Gimenez said he does not plan to do the same for the entire county. Gimenez said his decision to close non-essential businesses, parks and beaches while encouraging social distancing is very similar to enacting a stay-at-home order.

“A shelter-in-place order should only be used for hurricanes, tornadoes and active shooter incidents,” Gimenez wrote in a message posted to Facebook. “Under my emergency orders people should act as if they have the virus and stay safe at home so they don’t contribute to the spread of COVID-19.”

In order for these measures to be effective, there needs to be sustained adherence, and long term adherence is not realistically sustainable with excessively harsh/intrusive measures.

[Mecca]

Those numbers aren't even accurate, Chinas numbers are far far higher than that and frankly so are ours.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

The number in the far right column that you cut off is really the important one.

No it isn't.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Oh they will. Just keep looking IMO.

I drunkenly applied to something on Linkedin the other night (failing to read the fine print about providing a cover letter), got DM'd by the HR contact asking me to provide on the next morning, sent it before the end of the workday (whatever that means anymore) and radio silence since then.

Like I said: last time around it took sending 200 applications to yield around a dozen phone screens and then three in person interviews.

I'm imagining it will take double that and will have to start applying outside of Kansas City.. or start to radically distort my resume to get some attention.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Maybe it is just semantics, but I think this is a good reason to not issue a "shelter-in-place" order...

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/cor...241515451.html



In order for these measures to be effective, there needs to be sustained adherence, and long term adherence is not realistically sustainable with excessively harsh/intrusive measures.

If all of the gathering places and businesses are closed, then there's really not much to do out anyway. It takes care of itself without freaking people out.

[burt]

Originally Posted by Donger

No it isn't.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by loochy

I think the z pack is a protein synthesis inhibitor,but that mostly works on bacteria. I haven't heard of it inhibiting rhinovirus or coronas, and I don't see how it could. As you said, it probably just prevents secondary bacterial infection. The hydrochloroqine allows zinc to enter the cell and inhibit RNA replicase, stopping the virus proliferation. The zinc/chloro combo is the key, not the zpac

HCQ has anti-inflammatory effects as well.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Donger

No it isn't.

Really? How else are you supposed to compare countries of different sizes? Which is exactly what he is doing.

Your opinions are not automatically facts.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by burt

Sorry, but if you think that deaths per million is the really important number compared to the others....

[Mecca]

What's really important is New York says you shouldn't do a rim job right now due to Corona spread.