Welp. Looks like we need a RB.

[kccrow]

Agree DJ. The higher the yards you go the more the percentage goes up (800 yds is 80%) etc. Good backs come along every year but the best ones require a high pick, generally.

As for SPARQ champ, I just don't see it with Wes Hills but maybe he'll test better than what I see on the field.

Keep an eye on Maryland's Ty Johnson. He's got some wheels.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kccrow

Agree DJ. The higher the yards you go the more the percentage goes up (800 yds is 80%) etc. Good backs come along every year but the best ones require a high pick, generally.

As for SPARQ champ, I just don't see it with Wes Hills but maybe he'll test better than what I see on the field.

Keep an eye on Maryland's Ty Johnson. He's got some wheels.

ha!

Beat ya by about 30 seconds.

I'm thinking he might be my guy as well. I think he'll stay off some radars and Andy can put him to good use.

I agree with you on Hills; I'm just going off some admittedly dated scouting reports from his days in Delaware. He doesn't look as fast as people say he is. The reports are that he can move and at his size, you'll see some nice speed scores if that's the case.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

ha!

Beat ya by about 30 seconds.

I'm thinking he might be my guy as well. I think he'll stay off some radars and Andy can put him to good use.

I agree with you on Hills; I'm just going off some admittedly dated scouting reports from his days in Delaware. He doesn't look as fast as people say he is. The reports are that he can move and at his size, you'll see some nice speed scores if that's the case.

LOL nice!

I think Reid can work a committee if he has the right pieces. The thing I also like about Johnson is he can return kicks really well and he's solid as a pass catcher. He's going to probably run in the mid-4.4's and test out similar to LeSean McCoy. A 7.6 ypc career average in the Big 10 is nothing to sneeze at.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I don't think we need to be bending over backwards to find another elite back. If we stumble onto one again (like Hunt, Charles), then so be it. Awesome. But I think in the big picture, its far down on the list of needs for this team going forward.

If we want to build a dynasty under Mahomes and Reid, the best course of action is to get that damn defense to a respectable level and do it ASAP. The weapons to be an elite offense are already in place and not going anywhere soon.

But my thinking here is that Mahomes, while he may never have another 50+ season again like he may have this year, is probably always going to get the absolute most out of the guys around him and he will produce numbers to justify that. Just load up that defense and take some pressure off of the kid.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I don't think we need to be bending over backwards to find another elite back. If we stumble onto one again (like Hunt, Charles), then so be it. Awesome. But I think in the big picture, its far down on the list of needs for this team going forward.

If we want to build a dynasty under Mahomes and Reid, the best course of action is to get that damn defense to a respectable level and do it ASAP. The weapons to be an elite offense are already in place and not going anywhere soon.

But my thinking here is that Mahomes, while he may never have another 50+ season again like he may have this year, is probably always going to get the absolute most out of the guys around him and he will produce numbers to justify that. Just load up that defense and take some pressure off of the kid.

I don't think they're going to be lighting their pants on fire to shoot up the boards for a rare generation tailback, but I'd bet he would gladly spend a Day 2 pick to get a feature piece kind of guy like he had with Kareem Hunt or a LeSean McCoy.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I don't think they're going to be lighting their pants on fire to shoot up the boards for a rare generation tailback, but I'd bet he would gladly spend a Day 2 pick to get a feature piece kind of guy like he had with Kareem Hunt or a LeSean McCoy.

I agree, completely fine with using a day two pick.

But no need to use a first, and no need to spend big bucks on one in FA.

[BryanBusby]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I agree, completely fine with using a day two pick.

But no need to use a first, and no need to spend big bucks on one in FA.

Well I would say a lot of that will depend on where the Chiefs actually draft in the first round and what's available at the slot. If they are drafting 30 or 32 and it's a choice between a back or a massive reach, I wouldn't rule it out.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I don't think we need to be bending over backwards to find another elite back. If we stumble onto one again (like Hunt, Charles), then so be it. Awesome. But I think in the big picture, its far down on the list of needs for this team going forward.

If we want to build a dynasty under Mahomes and Reid, the best course of action is to get that damn defense to a respectable level and do it ASAP. The weapons to be an elite offense are already in place and not going anywhere soon.

But my thinking here is that Mahomes, while he may never have another 50+ season again like he may have this year, is probably always going to get the absolute most out of the guys around him and he will produce numbers to justify that. Just load up that defense and take some pressure off of the kid.

I think this is naive thinking tbh. Do you think DC's are just gonna sit by and be blind to what Mahomes and Reid are doing? Next season they will be gunning hard for Pat, so I believe we MUST make sure he has as many weapons as possible just like this season. Getting a good back and improving our running game should be a priority along with improving the defense imo. Having a running game that can wear down a defense and control the clock would bring a totally different dimension to this offense.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Here’s something I saw floated out there today that’s interesting. Tevin Coleman. Coached by Deland McCollough in college at Indiana, about to be a FA.

Obviously wouldn’t want to spend much but if he can be had for cheap, that’d be a great add IMO. Veach always talks about attacking pockets in the draft/FA. If the RB draft class isn’t strong, it might be a good idea. Again, needs to be cheap.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Here’s something I saw floated out there today that’s interesting. Tevin Coleman. Coaches by Deland McCollough in college at Indiana, about to be a FA.

Obviously wouldn’t want to spend much but if he can be has for cheap, that’d be a great add IMO. Veach always talks about attacking pockets in the draft/FA. If the RB draft class isn’t strong, it might be a good idea. Again, needs to be cheap.

RB class will probably be way stronger than the CB class, which really looks meh after the first few and even they aren't that great compared to past classes. Honestly, I'd rather hit FA for a couple vet CBs and draft a RB on day 2 than vice versa.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Here’s something I saw floated out there today that’s interesting. Tevin Coleman. Coaches by Deland McCollough in college at Indiana, about to be a FA.

Obviously wouldn’t want to spend much but if he can be has for cheap, that’d be a great add IMO. Veach always talks about attacking pockets in the draft/FA. If the RB draft class isn’t strong, it might be a good idea. Again, needs to be cheap.

I agree. He is great out of the backfield and definitely fits our offensive scheme.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Here’s something I saw floated out there today that’s interesting. Tevin Coleman. Coached by Deland McCollough in college at Indiana, about to be a FA.

Obviously wouldn’t want to spend much but if he can be had for cheap, that’d be a great add IMO. Veach always talks about attacking pockets in the draft/FA. If the RB draft class isn’t strong, it might be a good idea. Again, needs to be cheap.

If I'm taking on a veteran free agent it's Mark Ingram.

Coming out of college he was too heavy and slow; just didn't look like he was in very good shape. In the last couple of years he's completely remade his body and he looks damn quick now. He's not quite Kamara in that regard but it's closer than ever. He's still willing to put his nose in there and take on contact as well.

The question is how much his role will suppress his value. Is there a chance that you can get him for something like 2/$12? It doesn't seem likely given Jerick McKinnon's deal and I don't think McKinnon is as good as Ingram. And even if you can get him for 2/$12, should you? That's money that's just spent now and can't go to extensions for guys in-house. If he costs at/above what McKinnon costs, I'm out. But if his market doesn't come together, I'd make sure his agent knew I was interested at the right figure...probably.

I think Coleman's in that squishy middle in that he's going to cost real money but still not be a guy I'd be confident in as an every down back. I think I'd just take one of the slew of complementary backs available in the draft and be happy paying him the league minimum before I'd pay Coleman middle-class RB money.

I just like what I've seen from Ingram; he's really developed nicely and does a lot of things that would work extremely well here.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If I'm taking on a veteran free agent it's Mark Ingram.

Coming out of college he was too heavy and slow; just didn't look like he was in very good shape. In the last couple of years he's completely remade his body and he looks damn quick now. He's not quite Kamara in that regard but it's closer than ever. He's still willing to put his nose in there and take on contact as well.

The question is how much his role will suppress his value. Is there a chance that you can get him for something like 2/$12? It doesn't seem likely given Jerick McKinnon's deal and I don't think McKinnon is as good as Ingram. And even if you can get him for 2/$12, should you? That's money that's just spent now and can't go to extensions for guys in-house. If he costs at/above what McKinnon costs, I'm out. But if his market doesn't come together, I'd make sure his agent knew I was interested at the right figure...probably.

I think Coleman's in that squishy middle in that he's going to cost real money but still not be a guy I'd be confident in as an every down back. I think I'd just take one of the slew of complementary backs available in the draft and be happy paying him the league minimum before I'd pay Coleman middle-class RB money.

I just like what I've seen from Ingram; he's really developed nicely and does a lot of things that would work extremely well here.

How nice would it be to have Kamara sitting there in KC now?

Yeah, obviously with how the Hunt thing played out but even at the time, I think you were there as well as myself on preferring Kamara.

Hunt was a nice fit and we overlooked him a lot during the draft and stuff, but I still don't know that he's just irreplaceable.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

How nice would it be to have Kamara sitting there in KC now?

Yeah, obviously with how the Hunt thing played out but even at the time, I think you were there as well as myself on preferring Kamara.

Hunt was a nice fit and we overlooked him a lot during the draft and stuff, but I still don't know that he's just irreplaceable.

Kamara was my guy, yes. I was at a Mexican joint having dinner during the draft when our pick came up and I was just dumbfounded that we passed on him in the 2nd. It was that "oh my God, DJ's gonna fall to us" kind of anticipation as our pick came up.

And then we took ****ing K-Pass. I was...irritable.

[UChieffyBugger]

Anyway, here's a few names I'd like to talk about.

Darrell Henderson= Reminds me of Hunt a little but he appears to be much faster than Kareem.

Justice Hill= Looks very shifty indeed

Benny Snell JR= has broken his school's records, has been extremely productive and is one of the youngest backs around right now. Imo he could be the one to watch.

LJ Scott= has been hailed as the "next Le'Veon Bell"

Out of all the names mentioned Bryce, Harris, Snell, Montgomery and Henderson intrigue me the most right now.