Time for “Cut Eric Berry” and “Fire Bob Sutton” Banners?

[Skyy God]

I’m down for $25 each.

Combine for the 1st and draft for the 2nd?

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Oh, I might argue that they're stupid, or stubborn, enough to resist doing the "harder right" (firing Sutton and cutting Berry). Flying the banner is to make the "easier wrong" harder and harder.

I'd also argue that with as many times as they fell for the pick play, they're arguably pretty stupid. Perhaps as players and as coaches.

Perhaps the Chiefs apparent system of little-to-no accountability allows them to go home and drink instead of hitting the books, practicing timing routes, rub routes, defeating pick plays, as a team, until late into the evening. And then going home and watching film until 3am, just so THEY know their opponents better than they know themselves. You know, like BB and Tom-Terrific get credit for.

Lol at bringing GloryDayz and I together on an issue.

I think Clark is a mediocre owner who made a great hire in Reid. The fact he hired Herm, Todd, and Romeo (and we were linked to Jeff F’ing Fisher) speaks to his incompetence.

Got played like a chump releasing a valuable asset like Hunt for nothing. Getting owned by EB in negotiations. Etc.

He’s simply not bright enough to convince Andy to end the disasterout Sutton experiment.

[Mecca]

Tear what down? The defense is the worst in the league it should be torn down, you can't really get any worse.

[New World Order]

Why are people against this idea?

We've wanted to cut Berry and fire Bob all year

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Why are people against this idea?

We've wanted to cut Berry and fire Bob all year

I’m perplexed as well.

[Mecca]

They should literally just cut everyone off the D who makes a lot of money, if you're going to suck don't do it paying a lot of money.

[MahiMike]

Geez, this poor guy came up with a decent idea and he's getting hammered here.

I'll kick in $25.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Oh, I might argue that they're stupid, or stubborn, enough to resist doing the "harder right" (firing Sutton and cutting Berry). Flying the banner is to make the "easier wrong" harder and harder.

I'd also argue that with as many times as they fell for the pick play, they're arguably pretty stupid. Perhaps as players and as coaches.

Perhaps the Chiefs apparent system of little-to-no accountability allows them to go home and drink instead of hitting the books, practicing timing routes, rub routes, defeating pick plays, as a team, until late into the evening. And then going home and watching film until 3am, just so THEY know their opponents better than they know themselves. You know, like BB and Tom-Terrific get credit for.

You realize that the pick-play is the achilles heel of Man-Coverage, right?

There's no "Falling for the Pick Play". It's DESIGNED to break man coverage. It's why the Chiefs started running them against the Patriots Man-coverage schemes. And the NFL allows offenses to do this.

And if you sit back in Zone, you'll get picked apart like they did to the Chargers.

You seem to not understand that, which devalues your post quite a bit.

It's a no-win situation for the defense here. Play zone and get picked apart, or play Man and get exposed to rub routes.

The Chiefs picked the proper poison. The problem is they couldn't stop the run.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Why are people against this idea?

We've wanted to cut Berry and fire Bob all year

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

You realize that the pick-play is the achilles heel of Man-Coverage, right?

There's no "Falling for the Pick Play". It's DESIGNED to break man coverage. It's why the Chiefs started running them against the Patriots Man-coverage schemes. And the NFL allows offenses to do this.

And if you sit back in Zone, you'll get picked apart like they did to the Chargers.

You seem to not understand that, which devalues your post quite a bit.

It's a no-win situation for the defense here. Play zone and get picked apart, or play Man and get exposed to rub routes.

The Chiefs picked the proper poison. The problem is they couldn't stop the run.

So all the great defenses have the same problem, right? Play zone and get picked apart, or play Man and get exposed to rub routes?

I guess the don't so much as have the Innerwebs, are too stupid to understand it, or to lazy to practice it enough to effectively counter it.

https://blogs.usafootball.com/blog/4...-counteract-it

That being said, if Andy would lose a few pounds so that he could get close to an official fast enough, and light him the **** up about pick plays, draw attention to him screaming at the official like we say yesterday, we might actually get a few pick calls. But alas, that's not a game Andy will play, or allow his priestly players to play.

Bunt no, it's NOT impossible to counter, it just takes professionals honing their MOTHER ****ING skills and being passionate about it. And screaming at officials. Yeah, it might cost you 15 at some point, but the officials are human (or so I'm told), and they know throwing that flag is going to draw at least a few seconds of discussion about what he just missed calling.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Why are people against this idea?

We've wanted to cut Berry and fire Bob all year

Because we don't need to act like infantile children every time we want something of our team?

Sutton likely will get fired. We don't need Banners for that.

And cutting EB makes no sense.

He's just been this place's scapegoat all damn season.

He got beat on two jump balls by a player substantially bigger than him and all of a sudden he sucks.

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

Geez, this poor guy came up with a decent idea and he's getting hammered here.

I'll kick in $25.

$50 down!

My vote for the EB one is Cut Eric Berry’s “Spirit”

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

Because we don't need to act like infantile children every time we want something of our team?

Sutton likely will get fired. We don't need Banners for that.

And cutting EB makes no sense.

He's just been this place's scapegoat all damn season.

He got beat on two jump balls by a player substantially bigger than him and all of a sudden he sucks.

0-3 in games he played in.

And I truly believe he delayed getting surgery to attempt to trip his injury guarantee.

Addition by subtraction.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

So all the great defenses have the same problem, right? Play zone and get picked apart, or play Man and get exposed to rub routes?

I guess the don't so much as have the Innerwebs, are too stupid to understand it, or to lazy to practice it enough to effectively counter it.

https://blogs.usafootball.com/blog/4...-counteract-it

That being said, if Andy would lose a few pounds so that he could get close to an official fast enough, and light him the **** up about pick plays, draw attention to him screaming at the official like we say yesterday, we might actually get a few pick calls. But alas, that's not a game Andy will play, or allow his priestly players to play.

Bunt no, it's NOT impossible to counter, it just takes professionals honing their MOTHER ****ING skills and being passionate about it. And screaming at officials. Yeah, it might cost you 15 at some point, but the officials are human (or so I'm told), and they know throwing that flag is going to draw at least a few seconds of discussion about what he just missed calling.

It's impossible to counter when the QB is the GOAT and you only need to run sub 5 yard routes because you can't stop the run.

If it were so easy to counter, the Patriots wouldn't be so damn dominant. If it were so easy to counter, the Chiefs and everyone else in the league wouldn't be running them.

The Chiefs run rub routes and get away with it all the damn time. It's PART of the game now. That's why no one bitches to refs about it. They ALL do it and they ALL get away with it quite frequently.

The Patriots just happen to the best at it.

Point being, No one "fell for a pick play". It's part of the game now, and a commonly used answer to man coverage.

[ModSocks]

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

0-3 in games he played in.

And I truly believe he delayed getting surgery to attempt to trip his injury guarantee.

Addition by subtraction.

What a stupid, arbitrary number.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

It's impossible to counter when the QB is the GOAT and you only need to run sub 5 yard routes because you can't stop the run.

If it were so easy to counter, the Patriots wouldn't be so damn dominant. If it were so easy to counter, the Chiefs and everyone else in the league wouldn't be running them.

The Chiefs run rub routes and get away with it all the damn time. It's PART of the game now. That's why no one bitches to refs about it. They ALL do it and they ALL get away with it quite frequently.

The Patriots just happen to the best at it.

Point being, No one "fell for a pick play". It's part of the game now, and a commonly used answer to man coverage.

The Pats went 11-5 this year, hell we had HFA because they lost more than us, don't tell me it's impossible to effectively counter the pick-play because they have Tom, that's bullshit.

Jacksonville, Detroit, Tennessee, Miami and Pittsburgh all found a way to suppress it enough to win. Detroit, Tennessee, and Pittsburgh held Tom and the unstoppable New England pick-play to 10 ****ing points in each of their games...

So get out of here that it's impossible. It's hard, you just need to have not-stupid players, and not-stupid coaches... We suffer both of those and a ****ing stupid scheme too!