*** Official Milwaukee Brewers @ Kansas City Royals Game Thread (6/18) ***

[alnorth]

Final	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
MIL (24-44)	0	0	0	0	2	0	0	0	0	2	8	0
KC (38-25)	2	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	X	3	13	1

Ned Yost has the most wins as a manager in Royals franchise history



Loss, (3-8) Jimmy Nelson 5IP 3R 3ER 2BB 0K
Michael Blazek 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K
Will Smith 1⅓IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K
Jeremy Jeffress ⅔IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K

VS.



Win, (5-4) Jeremy Guthrie 6IP 2R 2ER 0BB 4K
Hold, (9) Kelvin Herrera 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K
Hold, (7) Wade Davis 1IP 0R 0ER 1BB 1K
Save, (12) Greg Holland 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K

Home Runs

none

AL Central

Final: STL 1, MIN 2
Final: CHC 3, CLE 4
Postponed: DET @ CIN
Final: PIT 3, CWS 2

Starting Lineups

MIL

1. Gerardo Parra, CF
2. Jonathan Lucroy, C
3. Ryan Braun, RF
4. Adam Lind, 1B
5. Aramis Ramirez, DH
6. Scooter Gennett, 2B
7. Jean Segura, SS
8. Shane Peterson, LF
9. Hernan Perez, 3B

KC

1. Alcides Escobar, SS
2. Mike Moustakas, 3B
3. Lorenzo Cain, CF
4. Eric Hosmer, 1B
5. Kendrys Morales, DH
6. Alex Gordon, LF
7. Salvador Perez, C
8. Alex Rios, RF
9. Omar Infante, 2B

[ReynardMuldrake]

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

Complete players manager, no doubt. I am sure he helps immensely with the chemistry inside of that clubhouse.

There's a reason he gives some dumb ****ing answers to the press when asked about his players. He isn't going to turn his back on anyone, especially not to the media. This has hurt him in some occasions, maybe, but no doubt that it has a big impact inside of the clubhouse.

I think, as a whole, managers (especially in the AL) are overrated by fans. I think it's hilarious when the manager is the first person that is blamed for anything. I don't think that a manager himself has much to do with the outcome of many games, but that's my opinion solely. I am more of a "blame the players" guy.

A manager can't win games, but he sure can lose them.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

Forget Hosmer, Moose, Gordon, Cain, etc...

Are we going to be able to afford to extend Dayton Moore after 2016?

Yes. What was the attendance?

[PHOG]

Originally Posted by Saul Good

The guy is a MUCH better manager than he is given credit for.

Now he even said, He's surrounded by so much talent, that it would almost be impossible NOT to suceed. His patience is almost maddening, but it has worked.
I would be lying if I said I was a supporter of his when last season started, but now I think he may have something, definately the players support, and that's good enough.

[C3HIEF3S]

Originally Posted by ReynardMuldrake

A manager can't win games, but he sure can lose them.

I won't disagree with that at all. Ned is also helped in having HDH slotted 7-8-9 in regards to the bullpen. We saw it tonight. Wade struggling and has bases loaded? Fight through it. And he did.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

Complete players manager, no doubt. I am sure he helps immensely with the chemistry inside of that clubhouse.

There's a reason he gives some dumb ****ing answers to the press when asked about his players. He isn't going to turn his back on anyone, especially not to the media. This has hurt him in some occasions, maybe, but no doubt that it has a big impact inside of the clubhouse.

I think, as a whole, managers (especially in the AL) are overrated by fans. I think it's hilarious when the manager is the first person that is blamed for anything. I don't think that a manager himself has much to do with the outcome of many games, but that's my opinion solely. I am more of a "blame the players" guy.

Manger win/loss is probably around 2 to 3 games out of 162.

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

Complete players manager, no doubt. I am sure he helps immensely with the chemistry inside of that clubhouse.

There's a reason he gives some dumb ****ing answers to the press when asked about his players. He isn't going to turn his back on anyone, especially not to the media. This has hurt him in some occasions, maybe, but no doubt that it has a big impact inside of the clubhouse.

I think, as a whole, managers (especially in the AL) are overrated by fans. I think it's hilarious when the manager is the first person that is blamed for anything. I don't think that a manager himself has much to do with the outcome of many games, but that's my opinion solely. I am more of a "blame the players" guy.

I totally get what you're saying, but NL managers are vastly more overrated than AL managers. IT'S A ****IMG DOUBLE SWITCH, PEOPLE...IT'S NOT COLD FUSION!

The AL dominates inter-league play.

[eDave]

[Great Expectations]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Manger win/loss is probably around 2 to 3 games out of 162.

That's the difference between division champ and wild card a lot of years, or wild card and playing golf.

[eDave]

Like any team would do shit if they didn't have a manager...

WTF?

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

[Saul Good]

Originally Posted by PHOG

Now he even said, He's surrounded by so much talent, that it would almost be impossible NOT to suceed. His patience is almost maddening, but it has worked.
I would be lying if I said I was a supporter of his when last season started, but now I think he may have something, definately the players support, and that's good enough.

That's so easy to say in retrospect.

Escobar: (Former Brewer prospect) Easily could have been dumped years ago. Remember how much shit Yost used to take for not pinch hitting for him in late innings back in the day? He always said that he needed to learn how to do it.

Cain: (Former Brewer prospect). Dude was completely raw and injury prone. Easily could have been dumped years ago.

Gordon: Could have been dumped years ago. He sucked for years.

Perez: Wasn't even a good prospect. Yost said from day one that he could be a Hall of Famer.


The guy knows his shit. He's made Dayton Moore look good just as much as Dayton's made him look good.

[baitism]

People that consider winning a two game series a sweep deserve AIDS.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by C3HIEF3S

I think, as a whole, managers (especially in the AL) are overrated by fans. I think it's hilarious when the manager is the first person that is blamed for anything. I don't think that a manager himself has much to do with the outcome of many games, but that's my opinion solely. I am more of a "blame the players" guy.

Me too. I have a very low bar of acceptability for managers, and before Ned came along, every Royals manager I saw while I was following the team failed to even do that much. I have two basic rules:

1) Pitch counts are important. Listen to the trainers, the doctors, and don't overwork or hurt your pitchers. Ned has been excellent at this, almost to a fault. Way too many of our prior managers have possibly ruined arms by overworking them.

2) Realize that you are managing in the American League, which means do not bunt or steal too much. Ned passes. (note: this has changed a bit, since sabermetrics have determined that with the decline of runs, "small ball" is now more relevant than before, but there's still a point where you can overdo it)

Thats it, thats all I ask of my manager. You do that, I'm cool, I don't care about lineups much, other than the L/R/L/R order can be helpful too. Ned was the first manager in a very long time which surpassed my very low bar of expectations for a manager.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by eDave

Yes. What was the attendance?

36,318

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Manger win/loss is probably around 2 to 3 games out of 162.

I think it can potentially be as high as 4 or 5, but yeah, its not a lot.