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Old 04-05-2021, 04:25 PM   #1
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Carolina fleeces the Jets.

Joe Brady is the PERFECT coordinator for Sam Darnold.

Carolina is close now.
"Close" where??? Darnold has been a failure thus far and can't even stay healthy...so spare me with the pom-pom dances please .
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Old 04-05-2021, 04:26 PM   #2
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"Close" where??? Darnold has been a failure thus far and can't even stay healthy...so spare me with the pom-pom dances please .
Question - do you think Adam Gase is a good coach? If so, why?
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Old 04-05-2021, 04:31 PM   #3
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Question - do you think Adam Gase is a good coach? If so, why?
So it's Gase's fault that Darnold can't read defenses, throws picks and is always injured??? People love to hype up things when there is no evidence backing up such notions. Teddy didn't hold Car back...they are a running team who lost their best player and their defense has holes too...that's what held them back. Anyone who thinks Darnold is all of a sudden gonna turn into Montana overnight because he's with Joe Brady are fooling themselves imo.
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Old 04-05-2021, 09:32 PM   #4
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So it's Gase's fault that Darnold can't read defenses, throws picks and is always injured??? People love to hype up things when there is no evidence backing up such notions. Teddy didn't hold Car back...they are a running team who lost their best player and their defense has holes too...that's what held them back. Anyone who thinks Darnold is all of a sudden gonna turn into Montana overnight because he's with Joe Brady are fooling themselves imo.
That's a pretty wild overstatement when most I think are just saying that's a nice value pick-up for Carolina to see if they can develop a still young former #1 overall pick.

if you liked Darnold coming out, I don't think you hold failing to develop under Gase against him.

Tannehill was a bust too, until he got away from Gase. Now he's a perfectly decent QB. Not a Mahomes, but not bad. You can win with guys like that with some luck.

Darnold has more upside. No, he hasn't shown much yet. But if you're not in a spot to draft a franchise QB, your next best bet is something like Darnold for a reasonable price in resources. See if a fresh approach can unlock his potential.
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Old 04-05-2021, 04:32 PM   #5
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"Close" where??? Darnold has been a failure thus far and can't even stay healthy...so spare me with the pom-pom dances please .

Buy low, sell high.

Panthers bought low. That's how you profit in the QB market.
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Old 04-05-2021, 04:35 PM   #6
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Buy low, sell high.

Panthers bought low. That's how you profit in the QB market.
"Buying" a young bust doesn't make you "close" though...that's my point. Jaimies Winston has had better seasons than Darnold...would anyone be saying Car are "close" with him??? No chance...so what's the hype about?
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Old 04-05-2021, 02:33 PM   #7
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Darnold is ****in terrible. Not sure why anyone would even want him.
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Old 04-05-2021, 02:45 PM   #8
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Darnold is ****in terrible. Not sure why anyone would even want him.
You simply can't say that with any certainty. The Jets entire organization was a dumpster fire.

Darnold actually has some skill, especially improvising outside the pocket. He's going to the PERFECT situation with Rhule and Brady where they can use him in unconventional ways.
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Old 04-05-2021, 02:55 PM   #9
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You simply can't say that with any certainty. The Jets entire organization was a dumpster fire.

Darnold actually has some skill, especially improvising outside the pocket. He's going to the PERFECT situation with Rhule and Brady where they can use him in unconventional ways.
I've never been high on him, even in college. Always is supposed to be good. Yet has sucked his entire life. At some point, maybe you just aren't good?

If people gave up on guys like Rosen and Dwayne Haskins, why haven't they gave up on this guy?
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Old 04-05-2021, 02:58 PM   #10
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I've never been high on him, even in college. Always is supposed to be good. Yet has sucked his entire life. At some point, maybe you just aren't good?

If people gave up on guys like Rosen and Dwayne Haskins, why haven't they gave up on this guy?
NFL teams liked Darnold pre-draft more than those other guys.

He was QB #1 on most boards.

Rosen had a few team interested but he was QB 3 or 4 for most.

Haskins might not have been a 1st rounder if it wasn't for Dan Snyder.

And for the record I had both Rosen and Haskins as busts pre-draft.

Not Darnold. If he can't make it with Joe Brady I'll take the L.
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Old 04-05-2021, 03:05 PM   #11
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NFL teams liked Darnold pre-draft more than those other guys.

He was QB #1 on most boards.

Rosen had a few team interested but he was QB 3 or 4 for most.

Haskins might not have been a 1st rounder if it wasn't for Dan Snyder.

And for the record I had both Rosen and Haskins as busts pre-draft.

Not Darnold. If he can't make it with Joe Brady I'll take the L.
Exactly.

Darnold was never a "traditional" pocket QB prospect. Yet Gase tried to use him exactly that way. Same as Tannehill.

Darnold is going to the perfect situation now.
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I've never been high on him, even in college. Always is supposed to be good. Yet has sucked his entire life. At some point, maybe you just aren't good?

If people gave up on guys like Rosen and Dwayne Haskins, why haven't they gave up on this guy?
Shut the **** up. Just shut the **** up.

You are the Skip Bayless of this board.
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Old 04-06-2021, 08:10 AM   #13
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Shut the **** up. Just shut the **** up.

You are the Skip Bayless of this board.
You are this mad because I think Darnold is not good? Damn bud. Be happy. Life is too enjoy.
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