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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-17-2012, 06:08 PM   #181
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Who's the hell gets 100% guaranteed contracts? Isn't the highest like 55%?
Like Deez said, the guaranteed number is what matters.
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:09 PM   #182
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I realize injuries happen, but not to your biggest offensive weapon and possible your best defensive player in the same season, for hte whole season.



Take away Ed Reed and Ray Rice and the Ravens don't make the AFC Champ game.
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:10 PM   #183
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Not at all. Would you pay Bowe 100 million dollars?
Last I heard the hangup was basically over guaranteed money.

Which is kinda stupid and reeks of Clark Hunt.
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:10 PM   #184
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Fine. Why do you care about Clark's money or a make-believe cap?
Fans: I'd be willing to sign him for $25M guaranteed, but not $35M.

Why? What a ****ing asinine position, unless your Clark's personal accountant. Why in the world would you care?

Is Bowe a very good WR? That's the only question that should matter. If the answer is yes, he's a #1, you should want him re-signed. Period.

The cap DOES NOT EXIST.
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Old 07-17-2012, 06:11 PM   #185
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The bottom line on this issue is simple. Bowe puts up top 10 WR numbers with bottom 10 QB play.
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Take away Ed Reed and Ray Rice and the Ravens don't make the AFC Champ game.
I bet they would beat Tim Tebow at home.
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Like Deez said, the guaranteed number is what matters.
That doesn't explain why you assumed the contract was 100% guaranteed.
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I think some say Bowe doesn't deserve the money because of his goose egg in the playoffs.
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Not at all. Would you pay Bowe 100 million dollars?
You mean the goose egg he took when he was running all over the field wide open, yet Cassel didn't throw him the ball ONCE?

$100M means nothing. Only the guaranteed money matters.
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He's not going to get $100M guaranteed, and guaranteed money is all that matters.

If we sign him to a 8 year $100M contract and it makes headlines, whatever. What's the guaranteed amount? Everything else is bullshit.
****. Beat me to it.
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I really don't give a shit about the money.


I do know one thing. You keep letting your best players walk without paying them, your gonna start seeing your fans get a little pissed.
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Better yet, we beat him on the road.
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Hmm...I think he's worth 27.65, but I wouldn't go any higher. /CP
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He's not getting less than 35 guaranteed. If he does, it's a steal. Should he be at Fitz level (42ish)? Megatron level (50ish)? Probably not. But I don't give a single **** because the cap doesn't mean a thing and I'm not worried about Clark's money.

I want wins, and Bowe is an essential contributor on this team. The fact that fans care about any more than this is strange to me.
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