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Old 01-27-2021, 02:36 PM   #1
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Because it’s obvious to anybody that has watched them play that Stafford is a superior talent overall.

He’s never had the luxury of a good defense or a great running game. His OL’s for the most part have been shit. The only thing he’s truly had to work with are some talented WR’s.
Yeah I never compared the defense. Why would I? I just posted their offensive metrics. Only one Stafford is ahead in is yards.
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Old 01-27-2021, 03:14 PM   #2
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Yeah I never compared the defense. Why would I? I just posted their offensive metrics. Only one Stafford is ahead in is yards.
I really don’t care about the stats. Stats say Josh Allen was as good or better than Mahomes this year too. Every time you make an argument it’s always stats based. You might as well use PFF too.

Nobody said you compared the defense. I am. Because it’s completely relevant context that you’re missing in favor of making a statistical comparison.

I also love how you think it’s just arm strength. Stafford has more arm talent period. He can make throws that Cousins can’t. That’s not just a throw away when we’re talking about QB’s. Stafford has shown the ability to comeback with his arm many times in his career. He’s a different kind of QB because of his arm talent.
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Old 01-27-2021, 02:09 PM   #3
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They're both teir two QBs. One just throws for more yards than the other while the other competes more passes and throws touchdowns at a higher rate.

In your opinion, what is Stafford much better than Kirk at? I'll give you arm strength. What else?
umm, ****ing everything.
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Old 01-27-2021, 02:37 PM   #4
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umm, ****ing everything.
Whoa..when you put it like this, totally changes my mind. Thanks for making such a comprehensive and well thought out post.
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Old 01-27-2021, 02:16 PM   #5
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They're both teir two QBs. One just throws for more yards than the other while the other competes more passes and throws touchdowns at a higher rate.

In your opinion, what is Stafford much better than Kirk at? I'll give you arm strength. What else?
and let's be crystal clear-

There's a tier that has Mahomes.

And then there's everyone else. So yeah, Stafford is second tier.

You stick him in Denver and that's a 12-4 or 13-3 team that's a pain in our ass.
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Old 01-27-2021, 02:18 PM   #6
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and let's be crystal clear-

There's a tier that has Mahomes.

And then there's everyone else. So yeah, Stafford is second tier.

You stick him in Denver and that's a 12-4 or 13-3 team that's a pain in our ass.
I wouldn't go that far.
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Old 01-27-2021, 02:23 PM   #7
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I wouldn't go that far.
Yeah, lets see who stays in or out of Colorado Penitentiary first.
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Old 01-27-2021, 02:25 PM   #8
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I wouldn't go that far.
Decent defense, a running game and some weapons? I would.
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and let's be crystal clear-

There's a tier that has Mahomes.

And then there's everyone else. So yeah, Stafford is second tier.

You stick him in Denver and that's a 12-4 or 13-3 team that's a pain in our ass.
Bullshit
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Old 01-28-2021, 07:02 AM   #10
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and let's be crystal clear-

There's a tier that has Mahomes.

And then there's everyone else. So yeah, Stafford is second tier.

You stick him in Denver and that's a 12-4 or 13-3 team that's a pain in our ass.
I dunno... I think Stafford is a lot of 'meh'. I know that he's been stuck in DET, but still. Great for him to get out, but I just don't know that he can take a team and lead them.
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I dunno... I think Stafford is a lot of 'meh'. I know that he's been stuck in DET, but still. Great for him to get out, but I just don't know that he can take a team and lead them.
If he lands in Denver you'll change your mind very quickly.
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anyone who thinks Matt Stafford and Kirk Cousins are equals forfeits all rights to claim any football knowledge whatsoever.
That’s King for you. It’s blatantly obvious that he doesn’t have a ****ing clue any time he tries to talk football.
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Stafford is not Cousins.

Cousins is the worst kind of game manager - the kind that can fool people into thinking he's not.
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