Chiefs hire Daboll

[Urc Burry]

Per Adam Schefter twitter

[mcaj22]

seriously this Patriot Tree crap was the worst thing to ever happen to this team. what a nightmare

[Okie_Apparition]

If he had a hot wife, no one would give a ****
Brady- hot wife
Bilicheck -MILFed to the max

[jd1020]

Funny how we can all be outraged about Pioli for sticking with mediocrity at QB and then when people like Haley leave and Zorn potentially leaving we have people outraged because of their departure(s).

[philfree]

After reading the crying here day after day I think this is going to be great hire.

[Okie_Apparition]

When he stepped away from the tree he got burned

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Funny how we can all be outraged about Pioli for sticking with mediocrity at QB and then when people like Haley leave and Zorn potentially leaving we have people outraged because of their departure(s).

People aren't outraged about Haley or Zorn leaving. People are outraged about the way it's gone down.

Why deny Zorn the opportunity to interview for other jobs and then not have a place for him here? Why dismiss Haley with 1 year left on his contract and then refuse to pay him?

This Front Office had PLENTY of opportunities to make these types of things simple, streamlined, and painless. Instead they've decided to be petty ****sticks.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition

When he stepped away from the tree he got burned

When did he step away from the tree?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

People aren't outraged about Haley or Zorn leaving. People are outraged about the way it's gone down.

Why deny Zorn the opportunity to interview for other jobs and then not have a place for him here? Why dismiss Haley with 1 year left on his contract and then refuse to pay him?

This Front Office had PLENTY of opportunities to make these types of things simple, streamlined, and painless. Instead they've decided to be petty ****sticks.

Maybe he was plan B if plan A failed. Now that plan A succeeded they are going to let him find something better, if he wishes to.

The Chiefs weren't obligated to grant permission to the Bears so wtf are people bitching about? Who gives a ****?

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Crennel changing structure of Chiefs offensive staff
By Josh Looney

Brian Daboll will not serve as a position coach. He'll focus on being the offensive coordinator.

With the hiring of Brian Daboll as offense coordinator, head coach Romeo Crennel is changing the structure of the Chiefs coaching staff.

It’s a shift in staff structure the team hasn’t seen since Chan Gailey served as offensive coordinator in Herm Edwards’ final season as head coach.

The change is both simple and efficient.

Daboll will not have any coaching responsibility other than being the team’s offensive coordinator. It’s essentially the same setup Crennel uses on the defense side of the football.

“He is a coordinator,” Crennel said. “Now as a coordinator he will be able to go into every meeting room on the offensive side of the ball but he’s going to coordinate the offense and go from there.”

Last season, Bill Muir served as the Chiefs offensive line coach in addition to his coordinator duties.

The year before, Charlie Weis carried the coordinator title but the Chiefs did not hire a quarterbacks coach on staff. Weis was responsible for that position and led quarterback meetings.

Even Todd Haley held positional duties while serving as offensive coordinator. In addition to his role as the team’s head coach, Haley often oversaw quarterback drills and meetings while serving as the team’s offensive coordinator in 2009.

Haley forced the brunt of quarterback responsibility on himself as a rookie head coach after firing Gailey as the team’s offensive coordinator two weeks before the start of the 2009 season. Gailey had been coaching the quarterbacks prior to his firing, which was a change from the previous year when he served only as the team's offensive coordinator.

Crennel’s decision to keep Daboll from carrying positional duties is significant in several ways.

First, it allows Daboll to concentrate his efforts on the offense as a whole. He’ll be able to roam from position to position, making adjustments, and will be able to watch tape on the entire 11-man operation rather than dedicating a significant portion of his time to a certain position group.

Second, alleviating positional duties from Daboll provides continuity for Matt Cassel and the Chiefs quarterbacks.

Cassel hasn’t just had five different offensive coordinators in what will be his fourth season with the team. He’s had four different position coaches the past three seasons as well.

Throw in the assistance that offensive quality control coach Nick Sirianni has provided and you could argue that Cassel’s had five quarterback coaches in three seasons with the Chiefs.

Even though Jim Zorn interviewed for the team’s offensive coordinator opening and came up short, it appears Zorn will stay on staff. Zorn’s return would give Cassel the same position coach two seasons in a row for the first time since he arrived in Kansas City.

“(Offensive Coordinator) didn’t work out for (Zorn) here at this time, but I told Jim that I wanted him to stay and hoped that he would stay and I expect him to stay” Crennel said. “I don’t know what else might happen for him but if nothing happens for him then I expect him to be here.

“Jim is a good coach, I think he’ll do a good job with the quarterbacks so we’re looking forward to him being here and going forward.”

Zorn’s return would provide a consistent voice for Cassel, Ricky Stanzi and potentially even unrestricted free agent Kyle Orton. Zorn was able to work more hands-on with Chiefs quarterbacks last season than the three position coaches who preceded him.

Zorn’s presence also allowed Sirianni, who’s been with the team in a quality control capacity for three seasons, to gain experience assisting other offensive positions including wide receiver. That experience could make Sirianni a candidate to become the team’s next wide receivers coach.

Currently, Crennel is still looking to fill three offensive staff positions.

“We’ve got an offensive line spot that we need to fill and an assistant offensive line spot,” Crennel said. “I have a direction that I’m going with the receivers and so we’ve got a couple of spots that we’ve got to look at.

“Hopefully it won’t take as long as it took with Brian but I think that you have to go through the process and that’s one of the things that we wanted to do was be thorough in the process.”

Daboll’s hiring is Crennel’s most important of the offseason and it represents the focal point of an effort to overhaul the Chiefs offense.

But the structure surrounding Daboll’s hiring also allows for the presence of continuity while changes are being made.

“I’m going to depend on him to handle the offensive side of the ball,” Crennel said. “But with that being said, because of our relationship we are going to be able to sit down and say this is how we need to attack an opponent, this is what we need to do in the game plan and then I expect Brian to implement those things.”

To successfully overhaul the offense with the least amount of turbulence, Daboll will need the assistance of offensive staffers who know the team’s personnel best. That’s where the retention of Zorn, Sirianni, Maurice Carthon and Bernie Parmalee come into play.

Without stacking positional duties on top of Daboll’s coordinator role, the Chiefs offensive transformation should run more smoothly.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

People aren't outraged about Haley or Zorn leaving. People are outraged about the way it's gone down.

Why deny Zorn the opportunity to interview for other jobs and then not have a place for him here? Why dismiss Haley with 1 year left on his contract and then refuse to pay him?

This Front Office had PLENTY of opportunities to make these types of things simple, streamlined, and painless. Instead they've decided to be petty ****sticks.

We don't owe Haley $3it. He was not only a d!ck but a loser. He was a terrible HC with a terrible record.

They should ask for their money back. Hell, we should too.

And I don't care if they deny Zorn a lateral move. **** that, Zorn is already a QB coach. We aren't taking food off his table.

Now, we deny him an opportunity to become HC or OC and I'd think that was shady...

[jd1020]

Besides... nothing in that article says they are going to accept someone's request to interview him. They just said "I hope he stays." Didn't Zorn say he would quit if not given the OC job?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

“We’ve got an offensive line spot that we need to fill and an assistant offensive line spot,” Crennel said. “I have a direction that I’m going with the receivers and so we’ve got a couple of spots that we’ve got to look at.

“Hopefully it won’t take as long as it took with Brian but I think that you have to go through the process and that’s one of the things that we wanted to do was be thorough in the process.”

So, that sounds like Sirianni will be our new WR coach.

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That puts an end to all the "were we or weren't we waiting to interview a playoff coach" talk.

They were waiting for Dabolls contract to end so they could interview him and THAT IS IT.

Interviewing Zorn and Saunders was strictly a formality.

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Fool me once...

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by BossChief

So, that sounds like Sirianni will be our new WR coach.

...

That puts an end to all the "were we or weren't we waiting to interview a playoff coach" talk.

They were waiting for Dabolls contract to end so they could interview him and THAT IS IT.

Interviewing Zorn and Saunders was strictly a formality.

...

Fool me once...

Surprised he wouldn't follow Haley to Pittsburgh....

[O.city]

Just saw a think on ESPN about Manning and where he could end next year, and the odds of teams that can acquire him winning a SB.


The Chiefs go from 50 to 1 to 16 to 1.

Here is the article.


On Monday, when I checked in with Jay Kornegay, who runs the book at the Las Vegas Hotel (formerly the Las Vegas Hilton), I was shocked. Where Peyton Manning might end up if and when he's released by the Colts isn't reflected in next year's posted Super Bowl odds. "We haven't moved anything … yet," he emailed.

That means no little bump for the Washington Redskins, or a nudge for the Miami Dolphins. Nothing. The action may be light seven months before kickoff, but I figured even the scent of rumors regarding where Manning might land could move some lines in the same way the hint of mad cow disease affects grain futures. The Redskins are currently 100-1, based on posted 20 percent odds they get Manning; couldn't that dip closer to 70-1 on rumors alone? So far: no. Books just won't budge on futures without something solid. Not yet, at least.

But this is good news for you. Manning might be the single greatest potential odds-shifting free agent in the league's history. He's the ultimate value prop, to the point where an equal play on every suitor might make sense. R.J. Bell of Pregame.com checked around with some sharps and told me Brett Favre signing with Minnesota may have pushed the Vikings' SB odds from about 30-1 to 15-1 -- and that was Favre coming off a pretty bad one-year run with the Jets. (And those Vikes were an INT from the Super Bowl.) Indy's poor performance this season is a testament to Manning's value.

So let's consider the futures field now and how dramatically Peyton could shift the odds and make any of these teams a good value prop bet. These go in order of teams that would be impacted the most. Simulations courtesy of AccuScore; odds via the LVH. Updated odds? Those are all me.


Arizona Cardinals | Current 2013 SB odds: 50-1 | Win projection: 7.0

Kevin Kolb has a $10 million cap number next season. Larry Fitzgerald is at a hair over $20 million. Bottom line: Arizona would have to creatively shoehorn, or perhaps reshuffle, the compensation for Fitz. But Manning makes Arizona the favorite in the NFC West by any projection you can find.

Win jump with Manning: 10.7 (plus-3.7) | Updated odds: 14-1


Washington Redskins | 2013 SB odds: 100-1 | Win projection: 4.6

If that win projection depresses you, Skins fans, remember that it's with your current QB situation, The BeckRex Effect, which isn't even a good band name. The fit for Peyton makes a lot of sense, and he would look great in the system (think Houston's), but the presence of Eli Manning in the same division could lessen the appeal. That said, the Skins could be the most aggressive financially. As a value prop, it's a 4-to-1 jump in odds alone.

Win jump: 8.1 (plus-3.5) | Updated odds: 25-1


Miami Dolphins | 2013 SB odds: 50-1 | Win projection: 7.4

Manning makes a lot of sense in Miami, diminished only by the fact that so does Matt Flynn, given Joe Philbin's presence. Miami has improved their blocking, can run the ball, and also have a nice trio of targets in the passing game, all nice draws. The win jump projection is significant and makes the unlucky Dolphins of this past season virtual playoff locks next season. Want a 15-1 team at 50-1?

Win jump: 10.5 (plus-3.1) | Updated odds: 15-1


New York Jets | 2013 SB odds: 20-1 | Win projection: 7.7

Odds he lands here? Small. That said, it'll remain interesting as long as Tom Moore's on the payroll -- Manning has never had another offensive coordinator as an NFL quarterback. Considering the Jets were the 29th most efficient passing game in 2011, if Manning wanted to come there, it'd be something to consider. And remember, it wouldn't be the first time general manager Mike Tannenbaum made this kind of move.

Win jump: 10.2 (plus-2.5) | Updated odds: 9-1


Cleveland Browns | 2013 SB odds: 100-1 | Win projection: 5.3

From what we hear, the Browns are more likely to have Robert Griffin III taking snaps than Manning next season, but they're included because of the QB questions. The win jump is only this low because of the rough AFC North schedule. Remember that new offensive coordinator Brad Childress has been down this road before with Favre -- more than once, in fact.

Win jump: 7.8 (plus-2.5) | Updated odds: 35-1


Seattle Seahawks | 2013 SB odds: 60-1 | Win projection: 7.3

The Vikings once went after Favre to avoid a season of Tarvaris Jackson. They went 12-4. Seattle is a well-constructed team, save for the large question mark behind center.

Win jump: 9.7 (plus-2.4) | Updated odds: 18-1


San Francisco 49ers | 2013 SB odds: 20-1 | Win projection: 9.6

Hold on, 49ers fans. Before you gripe about the current win projection total, please know that every model in the world (even the human model) sees regression for San Fran unless it improves as a team, because its plus-28 turnover margin was not only historically good, but will be impossible to repeat. Of the six teams that were at or better than that margin in history, none improved their win totals in the next season. No way around it: Manning makes San Francisco better and is just as much a bridge to your QB of the future as the incumbent is.

Win jump: 11.5 (plus-1.9) | Updated odds: 8-1


Kansas City Chiefs | 2013 SB odds: 50-1 | Win projection: 6.8

In some ways, K.C. quietly makes a lot of sense. Matt Cassel's cap hit is down to a hair over $5 million for next season, so the Chiefs have the capability to be aggressive, and they're in a division that is up for grabs. They should be improved in terms of personnel, getting three of their best players back from injury. Certainly a good value prop if the SB odds are still at 50-1 an hour before Manning signs.

Win jump: 8.5 (plus-1.8) | Updated odds: 16-1

[Okie_Apparition]

Haley & Pendergast weren't part of the New England graft
Gailey wan't either, but he didn't make the season
Daboll is a NE graft for the tree for the special Patriot Way fruit