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*** Official Milwaukee Brewers @ Kansas City Royals Game Thread (6/18) ***





Final 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R
H
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MIL (24-44) 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 2
8
0
KC (38-25) 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 X 3
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Ned Yost has the most wins as a manager in Royals franchise history



Loss, (3-8) Jimmy Nelson 5IP 3R 3ER 2BB 0K
Michael Blazek 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K
Will Smith 1⅓IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K
Jeremy Jeffress ⅔IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K

VS.



Win, (5-4) Jeremy Guthrie 6IP 2R 2ER 0BB 4K
Hold, (9) Kelvin Herrera 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 0K
Hold, (7) Wade Davis 1IP 0R 0ER 1BB 1K
Save, (12) Greg Holland 1IP 0R 0ER 0BB 2K

Home Runs

none

AL Central

Final: STL 1, MIN 2
Final: CHC 3, CLE 4
Postponed: DET @ CIN
Final: PIT 3, CWS 2

Starting Lineups

MIL

1. Gerardo Parra, CF
2. Jonathan Lucroy, C
3. Ryan Braun, RF
4. Adam Lind, 1B
5. Aramis Ramirez, DH
6. Scooter Gennett, 2B
7. Jean Segura, SS
8. Shane Peterson, LF
9. Hernan Perez, 3B

KC

1. Alcides Escobar, SS
2. Mike Moustakas, 3B
3. Lorenzo Cain, CF
4. Eric Hosmer, 1B
5. Kendrys Morales, DH
6. Alex Gordon, LF
7. Salvador Perez, C
8. Alex Rios, RF
9. Omar Infante, 2B

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Old 06-18-2015, 09:52 PM   #436
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Since this could be Yosts last year who would you want to be the next manger of the Royals?
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Old 06-18-2015, 09:53 PM   #437
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Personally, I define a "sweep" as where you win every game in a series that is at least 3 games. So this is either a 4-game sweep, or there was no sweep at all in my book, depending on how important the road/away split is
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I will say ... those computer simulations for team wins are about the most pointless thing in the world ... as evidenced by EVERYTHING that has happened so far this year.

KC / Minnesota / TB / New York / Toronto / Houston / Texas

and then on the flip side

Cleveland / Seattle / Detroit / Boston

I can't pretend to know much about a lot of these other teams but when PECOTA and Vegas O/U came out with 72 and 80.5 it was the funniest thing I've ever seen.

I knew this team was a lock for 90. I predicted 94. 72?!
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I will say ... those computer simulations for team wins are about the most pointless thing in the world ... as evidenced by EVERYTHING that has happened so far this year.

KC / Minnesota / TB / New York / Toronto / Houston / Texas

and then on the flip side

Cleveland / Seattle / Detroit / Boston

I can't pretend to know much about a lot of these other teams but when PECOTA and Vegas O/U came out with 72 and 80.5 it was the funniest thing I've ever seen.

I knew this team was a lock for 90. I predicted 94. 72?!
Monte Carlo Simulations are a very useful tool...

... but we can't pretend that we have solved baseball with stats, and anyone who acts like we have will look silly.

Also, the saber folks have already calculated before this season started how very large the error bars are for these projections (but thats never emphasized because thats not interesting). They are so large that we can generally predict that a team projected to be "terrible" won't be good, and a team projected to be "good" won't be terrible, but thats it. If the projections say near .500 for you, then you could land anywhere in the standings.

The biggest problems are defense and young players. Once we nail those down (if that is ever possible) then the projections might become more accurate.

This season's Royals team should actually be very valuable to the owners of those projections, after this season is over they will be able to lift the hood, look at their model vs the Royals, and wonder why they were so terribly wrong and adjust for future seasons.
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The biggest problems are defense and young players. Once we nail those down (if that is ever possible) then the projections might become more accurate.
But dat sample size tho...


You might be able to pin down the metrics that correlate to the success that a team such as the Royals have attained.. but there are 29 other franchises that might not necessarily be aiming for the same things that are reflected in the metrics which you trot out as the reason why a team like the Royals are having success.
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