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Old 09-30-2020, 11:01 AM  
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Which QB is better: Dak Prescott or Lamar Jackson?
Was just talking about this with coworkers.

Most agreed Dak overall was better. Both will be looking to get paid soon.

Who’s the better QB?
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Old 09-30-2020, 08:09 PM   #136
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But a low score on the Wonderlic test doesn't necessarily mean that a person can't learn to do a basic pre-snap read does it? I mean, Marino managed and his score wasn't that great either.
Marino was a Quarterback first and an athlete second
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Old 09-30-2020, 08:12 PM   #137
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Lamar overall he is harder to stop than Dak is. I don't get all the Lamar hate on this board dude can play.
What I don't get is how people think Lamar is still so hard to stop. How many times do we need to see this before people get it?
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Old 09-30-2020, 08:22 PM   #138
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Lamar overall he is harder to stop than Dak is. I don't get all the Lamar hate on this board dude can play.
Chiefs held Lamar to 97 yards passing with a depleted secondary.
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Old 09-30-2020, 08:25 PM   #139
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What I don't get is how people think Lamar is still so hard to stop. How many times do we need to see this before people get it?
That’s what I want to see. The Chiefs don’t have anywhere near the best defense in the league, but Spags and his guys have made Lamar look pretty mediocre the last 2 years. When will the rest of the league figure out how to slow him down? I suppose the situation is not helped by the fact Baltimore has a weak schedule.
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Old 09-30-2020, 08:33 PM   #140
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What I don't get is how people think Lamar is still so hard to stop. How many times do we need to see this before people get it?
You may want to check his overall stats instead of a few bad games simply because it fits your agenda. If dude wasn't hard to stop he wouldn't have won MVP last season. He can play. He isn't the best or a prime Brady or P Manning but he is good.
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Old 09-30-2020, 08:37 PM   #141
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It's weird that running quarterbacks are more scary for me as an opposing fan, but they almost never win the Super Bowl. Who's done it? Maybe Steve Young and Roger Staubach? The top quarterbacks are quarterbacks first and run only when they have to. You know, like Mahomes.
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Running QBs make you a little nervous as an opposing fan, because you worry that they'll tear up your defense. But they really don't have a history of winning a lot of games in the NFL, and it seems like most of them fatten up on bad teams with bad defenses.

Jackson is a prime example. He sells jerseys and piles up stats but doesn't win big games, isn't going to beat great teams when you have to be disciplined and just play the QB position. There have been a lot of guys like him before.

In that vein I would probably rather have Prescott, but I wouldn't really want my franchise giving a franchise QB deal to either of them.
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You may want to check his overall stats instead of a few bad games simply because it fits your agenda. If dude wasn't hard to stop he wouldn't have won MVP last season. He can play. He isn't the best or a prime Brady or P Manning but he is good.
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You're ****ing hilarious.

Nobody cares about stats. Can the guy win in the playoffs? He wilts against good teams and guess what he's ALWAYS going to see in the playoffs?
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You may want to check his overall stats instead of a few bad games simply because it fits your agenda. If dude wasn't hard to stop he wouldn't have won MVP last season. He can play. He isn't the best or a prime Brady or P Manning but he is good.
Thanks for the insight Donnie.
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That’s what I want to see. The Chiefs don’t have anywhere near the best defense in the league, but Spags and his guys have made Lamar look pretty mediocre the last 2 years. When will the rest of the league figure out how to slow him down? I suppose the situation is not helped by the fact Baltimore has a weak schedule.
Several teams did it last year.

Pittsburgh, Seattle, New England, the Rams, San Francisco, and Buffalo all held him to less than 175 yard passing.

Only two of those games did they allow 17 points or more (and one of them went to OT).
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You're ****ing hilarious.

Nobody cares about stats. Can the guy win in the playoffs? He wilts against good teams and guess what he's ALWAYS going to see in the playoffs?
Well I guess Marino sucks then too since he never won a SB. Oh and btw what has Dak ever won?

What weapons does Lamar have w Ravens?
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It's weird that running quarterbacks are more scary for me as an opposing fan, but they almost never win the Super Bowl. Who's done it? Maybe Steve Young and Roger Staubach? The top quarterbacks are quarterbacks first and run only when they have to. You know, like Mahomes.
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It's weird that running quarterbacks are more scary for me as an opposing fan, but they almost never win the Super Bowl. Who's done it? Maybe Steve Young and Roger Staubach? The top quarterbacks are quarterbacks first and run only when they have to. You know, like Mahomes.
Yes, completely agree. Steve Young didn't become his best self until he learned to be a QB from the pocket. Probably ditto Staubach, though I wasn't old enough when he played to understand the subtleties of, well anything really. Fran Tarkenton played in three Super Bowls but didn't win any of them, and he was basically the first 'running QB' in the modern era, I think.
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It's weird that running quarterbacks are more scary for me as an opposing fan, but they almost never win the Super Bowl. Who's done it? Maybe Steve Young and Roger Staubach? The top quarterbacks are quarterbacks first and run only when they have to. You know, like Mahomes.

And Young didn’t win the title until he was primarily a pocket passer.

My favorite running QB is still Randall Cunningham. He was fun this to watch in his prime. But He never could win the big one either.
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You're ****ing hilarious.

Nobody cares about stats. Can the guy win in the playoffs? He wilts against good teams and guess what he's ALWAYS going to see in the playoffs?
Always? Please, he only has 25 games under his belt as a starter.
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