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Old 01-21-2019, 08:21 PM  
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:07 AM   #91
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Nnadi was a very good player. Speaks...well...wasn't. That being said, a lot of the young guys weren't on the field a lot, which Veach doesn't control - Andy and Bob do.

It all starts with getting better coaching. After that, we'll see. I'm not ready to count Veach out yet but yes, it HAS to improve.
I haven't lost faith and still have Veach ranked at only 120 Negative Veach Power Points. Considering the situation, that's not bad.

What bothers me is this; Veach made a clear statement that he was going to fix those two things. He was so convinced that he would do it that he stated it publicly and repeatedly. Okay, I get it. You have to speak things into existence. No problem. Plus, I think he tried.

However, you could look at it another way. You could say, "Who is this madman talking sh*t and not delivering on his declared promises?"

Personally, I'm somewhere in the middle ... hoping for the best.

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Old 01-22-2019, 10:08 AM   #92
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Speaks needs to get his doughey ass into the weight room and convert 20 lbs of Popeye's Chicken into 20 lbs of muscle. He reminds me of Ryan "Donut Boy" Sims. You can't be a fat bastard in the NFL unless you're a MASSIVE fat bastard like Vince Woolfork. And guys like that are few and far between.
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:09 AM   #93
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While I agree personnel is part of the problem, the bulk of the blame needs to fall on Sutton. There is flat out no excuse for a TV color commentator to be able to call what play should be run against our D and be right as often as he was. If he can see it, Brady and Hoodie could, too. Don't give me "Sutton's scheme is complicated". It obviously wasn't and it hasn't been for quite some time.
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:17 AM   #94
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Speaks needs to get his doughey ass into the weight room and convert 20 lbs of Popeye's Chicken into 20 lbs of muscle. He reminds me of Ryan "Donut Boy" Sims. You can't be a fat bastard in the NFL unless you're a MASSIVE fat bastard like Vince Woolfork. And guys like that are few and far between.
That is something that has troubled me as well. I figured in the preseason it was fine since he is just getting into the NFL conditioning program, but then he looked just as fat or fatter by the end of the season. ****er better have a reason for that spare tire.
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:17 AM   #95
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Exactly.

Not only COULD Bob Sutton field a better defense with better talent - he DID. But that was in the past. Adjustments need to be made and he can't do it.

Start with him and then focus on the draft. Thinks can, and will, improve.
We lost because of Bob Sutton and Dee Ford. It wasn’t even the talent.

I am so pissed off that Sutton played cover 2 on the last drive. Those goddamn safeties were playing so deep that the middle of the damn field was open for Edelman. I don’t get it.

I hate that ****er so much. How could you not jam Edelman at the LOS? Why on Earth would you leave that guy in single coverage with nobody in the middle of the field over and over again?

Watch this and try not to break your tv.

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Old 01-22-2019, 10:18 AM   #96
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Speaks needs to get his doughey ass into the weight room and convert 20 lbs of Popeye's Chicken into 20 lbs of muscle. He reminds me of Ryan "Donut Boy" Sims. You can't be a fat bastard in the NFL unless you're a MASSIVE fat bastard like Vince Woolfork. And guys like that are few and far between.
He's also playing out of position, that's Bob's fault. (Or Veach's for thinking it could work.)
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:24 AM   #97
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KC has some dumb ass DB's who still don't know what their assignments are.
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I'm not putting much blame on Ford's offsides for the loss when we had chance after chance to stop them on 3rd and long and failed. Or when we got gashed with run after run up the middle for 7-8 yards. That crap rests on the DC's head for not adjusting to the situation.
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KC has some dumb ass DB's who still don't know what their assignments are.
It wasn't just the DB's. Sitting at field level, you could see a lot of crap going on between plays. Xavier Williams spent a lot of time waving his arms and looking at the sidelines like he was lost. Nnadi did a couple of times. Their subs were off too - guys not knowing who was in and who was out.

It was really bad. Sutton has to go.
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The Pats averaged 3.7 yards per rush. The Cheifs averaged 3.4

The Pats were able to get the Chiefs off the field on 3rd downs. That's what killed the Chiefs. We'd get them to 3rd down and they were 13-19 on 3rd down.

13-19. That's unreal.

They alex smith'd us.
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Old 01-22-2019, 10:31 AM   #102
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It wasn't just the DB's. Sitting at field level, you could see a lot of crap going on between plays. Xavier Williams spent a lot of time waving his arms and looking at the sidelines like he was lost. Nnadi did a couple of times. Their subs were off too - guys not knowing who was in and who was out.

It was really bad. Sutton has to go.
You could see it on the television screen, as well.

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It wasn't just the DB's. Sitting at field level, you could see a lot of crap going on between plays. Xavier Williams spent a lot of time waving his arms and looking at the sidelines like he was lost. Nnadi did a couple of times. Their subs were off too - guys not knowing who was in and who was out.

It was really bad. Sutton has to go.
I'm sure they were all exhausted and wanted to sub out at times leading to some confusion.* I'm not excusing Sutton at all, but the Pats came out much better prepared, executed much better and were much more physical. Belichick came out with a game plan that held KC's rushing attack, Hill and Kelce to under 100 yards combined. Absolutely brilliant.

KC's defense didn't even try to chip guys at the line that I could see.

* Reid should have called a defensive timeout in OT to give them a breather.
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I'm not putting much blame on Ford's offsides for the loss when we had chance after chance to stop them on 3rd and long and failed. Or when we got gashed with run after run up the middle for 7-8 yards. That crap rests on the DC's head for not adjusting to the situation.
Yeah there's always things you look back on if you lose. An unfortunate mistake but there were many times where if one person did something different, we probably would've won the game. That's just the easiest to nitpick.
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