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Old 04-17-2019, 05:11 PM  
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Bill Barnwell proposes two trades the Chiefs should make in the draft
http://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2019/st...-32-wild-deals

One is a trade up for a DE or CB. One is a trade down but we get a DE back in the trade.

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18. Minnesota Vikings
Vikings get: 1-29, 2-63
Chiefs get: 1-18, 6-190

After re-signing Anthony Barr and giving Adam Thielen a much-deserved raise as part of his contract extension, general manager Rick Spielman and the Vikings know they need to nail their draft picks to find regulars on low-cost deals. Minnesota will naturally look to address its offensive line yet again in the draft, but it might be more interested in guards if it plans to keep Riley Reiff at tackle. The Vikings could be better off moving down and picking up an extra second-round pick.

The Chiefs, meanwhile, have to be aggressive in going after edge-rushing help after somehow turning Dee Ford and Justin Houston into Alex Okafor and Emmanuel Ogbah this offseason. Trading up to the middle of the first round might give them a shot at adding someone like Brian Burns to their rotation at defensive end. The Chiefs also could use this trade, which includes the second-rounder Kansas City acquired from the Rams in the Marcus Peters deal, to trade up for their pick of the cornerback class.
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29. Kansas City Chiefs
Chiefs get: DE Carl Lawson, 2-42, 4-110
Bengals get: 1-29, 6-201

A Bengals trade up is about as rare as it gets, but with the Packers and Patriots lurking as teams that could at least consider using a first-round pick on a quarterback like Daniel Jones, any team interested in nabbing a quarterback is going to have to talk to the Chiefs. If the Bengals don't draft a passer with their first-round pick, moving into the bottom of the first round would be a plausible alternative.

Kansas City general manager Brett Veach already has two late second-round picks, but as the Chiefs build their roster around a core of stars who are about to get very expensive, they're going to need talented players on rookie deals. Here, they get a pair of valuable picks and a pass-rusher with upside in Lawson, who had 8.5 sacks and 21 hits as a rookie before tearing his ACL last season. With two years left on his rookie deal, any sort of return to that rookie form would make Lawson extremely valuable for a Chiefs team desperately seeking edge-rushing help.
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Old 04-17-2019, 05:13 PM   #2
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You know, I wouldn't be opposed to the Lawson deal.
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Old 04-17-2019, 05:13 PM   #3
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I could live with the Bengals proposal.
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Old 04-17-2019, 05:14 PM   #4
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You know, I wouldn't be opposed to the Lawson deal.
My exact thoughts when I first saw it.

Carl Lawson
3 2nd round picks, a 3rd and a 4th?

Works for me.
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Old 04-17-2019, 05:16 PM   #5
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I don't mind either of those deals
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Old 04-17-2019, 05:19 PM   #6
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I think giving up 1+2 for Burns would be not great.
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Old 04-17-2019, 05:24 PM   #7
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If there truly are only 15 first round talents and we trade up to 18 I hope three or more teams in front of us were dumb as ****
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I think giving up 1+2 for Burns would be not great.
I was thinking more about one of the top corners
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I was thinking more about one of the top corners
Yeah, I could see that.

If it were for Burns, I'd wonder why they just didn't keep Dee Ford.
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Old 04-17-2019, 05:27 PM   #10
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Old 04-18-2019, 08:44 AM   #12
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I'd be in on the 2nd trade since we'd get an additional 2. I don't see a whole lot of value in giving up our 1 and a 2 to move up.
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Both of those deals would be completely defensible depending on circumstance.

But didn't Lawson just blow out a knee or something? And I know he blew one out in college and that's why he fell.

I really liked the guy during the draft and I wouldn't mind getting him. In that deal he has the value of, what, a 5th round pick or so? So that's not terrible but I think you need to remember that his health history is pretty spotty.

And our history of pass rushers returning from major knee injuries isn't great.
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I'd be in on the 2nd trade since we'd get an additional 2. I don't see a whole lot of value in giving up our 1 and a 2 to move up.
you're not getting an additional anything, you're swapping your first for a second
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If there truly are only 15 first round talents and we trade up to 18 I hope three or more teams in front of us were dumb as ****
Well we know Kyler Murray will get taken so theres 1 at least
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