***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[notorious]

Speaking of New York CP members, has anyone heard from Dylan?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by notorious

I know that we have some CP members that live in NY, and love it, but I will NEVER live there.

It's got nothing to do with politics. That kind of city living would kill this country boy.

I could do it. I would love to live downtown Chicago or something similar if I was single

A family a kids tho? Not for me.

I do like my country and land though.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

This thing is just weird

States that did it right and locked down early have the same deaths per 100k as some of the ones that were lackadaisical and late

New York gets wiped out but other large cities have to take down all their hospitals and shit they built.

I think Sweden has it right. Yes, they are a bit worse than us but really when you consider they haven't destroyed their economy and they are building herd immunity are they really that much worse than us? Maybe they are but it doesn't seem like it.

[petegz28]

[petegz28]

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by O.city

My orthopedic surgeon buddy here in town said they’re starting them Monday super super slow though and you have to be tested prior and it’s just outpatient stuff

Going to talk to my neurosurgeon this week. I expect to be put on the back burner for awhile longer.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Going to talk to my neurosurgeon this week. I expect to be put on the back burner for awhile longer.

That's a bunch of shit, stump. Hope that doesn't happen.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by notorious

32 deaths out of 3743 confirmed positives.




Uhh............

I’m referring to the specific MCI location which was the one referenced with all of the asymptomatic cases.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

That's a bunch of shit, stump. Hope that doesn't happen.

Yea, might work out for the best anyways. Not really a good time for me to be out of commission.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Going to talk to my neurosurgeon this week. I expect to be put on the back burner for awhile longer.

Pun intended?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

I’m referring to the specific MCI location which was the one referenced with all of the asymptomatic cases.

Sorry, I wasn't questioning your post.


I was referencing the 99.14% survival rate.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Pun intended?

HA! I didn't see what I did there.

[petegz28]

So call it, how many people do you think are really walking around with this virus?

I'll say 10-12 million

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by notorious

Sorry, I wasn't questioning your post.


I was referencing the 99.14% survival rate.

Ah, no worries. Your post made me curious about this PCI (Pickaway) facility that had the higher death count and a similarly high amount of cases and I found a pretty interesting quote from an Ohio corrections spokesperson.

“Marion houses a high number of older individuals, many who have pre-existing health conditions. Pickaway houses our long-term-care center similar to a nursing home, and Franklin is our state prison medical center.”

[notorious]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Ah, no worries. Your post made me curious about this PCI (Pickaway) facility that had the higher death count and a similarly high amount of cases and I found a pretty interesting quote from an Ohio corrections spokesperson.

“Marion houses a high number of older individuals, many who have pre-existing health conditions. Pickaway houses our long-term-care center similar to a nursing home, and Franklin is our state prison medical center.”

That's what I get for not quoting the post I referenced!

The Ohio prison "test" has the 99.14% survival rate.