Chris Simms Breaks Down The Mahomes-Deshaun Watson Rivalry

[Tribal Warfare]

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Better comparison is Jordan and Clyde Drexler.

In "The Last Dance" Drexler was regarded as one of the best shooting guards in the league.

But then he played Jordan in the Finals and was absolutely demolished.

I’m going to disagree there. Drexler is probably a top 5-8 all time shooting guard. He’s a historically great player.

Mitch Richmond was a very good player and multi-time all star. Even a 5-time 2nd and 3rd team All NBA player. A very good player, but not historically great.

Watson hasn’t done anything to be in the historically great conversation. As of now, he’s a very good QB. He has 1 4,000 yard season. His career high for TDs is 26. He has a losing record in the postseason.

[Mahomes_Is_God]

I keep seeing this and the "Lamar Jackson rivalry". Don't you have to be on same level of your opponent in order for it to be a rivalry?

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Better comparison is Jordan and Clyde Drexler.

In "The Last Dance" Drexler was regarded as one of the best shooting guards in the league.

But then he played Jordan in the Finals and was absolutely demolished.

First thought I had when reading the OP, well done

[Mahomes_Is_God]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I’m going to disagree there. Drexler is probably a top 5-8 all time shooting guard. He’s a historically great player.

Mitch Richmond was a very good player and multi-time all star. Even a 5-time 2nd and 3rd team All NBA player. A very good player, but not historically great.

Watson hasn’t done anything to be in the historically great conversation. As of now, he’s a very good QB. He has 1 4,000 yard season. His career high for TDs is 26. He has a losing record in the postseason.

To be fair, that TD pass he threw after getting kicked in the eye was pretty badass. I'll give props when they're due.

[Kiimo]

I predicted Watson would be a bust and I have that erroneous prediction rubbed in my face every single time I watch him play. Dude makes incredible plays under tons of pressure.

He's not nearly as good as Mahomes but he's top 5 in the league no problem. If Watson was with Reid he may have a ring by now. Instead he's with O'Brien, dumbass extraordinaire

[Shaid]

Holy NFL Gamepass Batman!

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Watson is a top 5 QB. I thought his weakness would be his arm strength but he’s proven me wrong. Just sucks he’s stuck with BOB

[Mecca]

division, playoff and SB picks

This should make everyone happy I'd think.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Rivalry? Pffftttttttt

I don’t remember Michael Jordan and Mitch Richmond being rivals

Hahaha. Maybe in Richmond's eyes. But to Michael?

[Mecca]

To break that down

Simms Chiefs over Seahawks

Other dude Chiefs over Saints

Mahomes season MVP
Reid coach of the year

Simms thinks the Chiefs are going to have a prove it year and be wire to wire the best team and rip off a 14-2 or 15-1 record.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I predicted Watson would be a bust and I have that erroneous prediction rubbed in my face every single time I watch him play. Dude makes incredible plays under tons of pressure.

He's not nearly as good as Mahomes but he's top 5 in the league no problem. If Watson was with Reid he may have a ring by now. Instead he's with O'Brien, dumbass extraordinaire

Watson is so overrated its incredible. Every time something goes to shit with the Texans its always Bill O' Brien's fault. Like the playoff collapse. Deshaun sat over on the bench pouting like a pussy and played like trash, but oh its Bills fault. Everyone wants to bring up a few stupid things he did and ignore over half a game of incompetence from Watson.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by Mahomes_Is_God

To be fair, that TD pass he threw after getting kicked in the eye was pretty badass. I'll give props when they're due.

That’s an incredible play. No doubt about that.

Clyde Drexler is probably in the 3rd tier or so of all time NBA players.

Watson has done nothing to be mentioned in that regard yet. He makes some incredible plays. He’s a very good player. He’s just not in the conversation as an all time great yet, and we don’t know that he ever will be. Mahomes is already in that conversation.

[Mahomes_Is_God]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

That’s an incredible play. No doubt about that.

Clyde Drexler is probably in the 3rd tier or so of all time NBA players.

Watson has done nothing to be mentioned in that regard yet. He makes some incredible plays. He’s a very good player. He’s just not in the conversation as an all time great yet, and we don’t know that he ever will be. Mahomes is already in that conversation.

Oh I agree. As of right now I don't think he's worthy of being considered a "rival" to Mahomes. I don't think anybody comes close except for maybe Russell Wilson, but he's in a different conference obviously.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Better comparison is Jordan and Clyde Drexler.

In "The Last Dance" Drexler was regarded as one of the best shooting guards in the league.

But then he played Jordan in the Finals and was absolutely demolished.

I'm gonna absolutely wear this quote out over the next 10+ years, but I'll be damned if I don't just love it.

"You judge greatness by its graveyard...."

Jordan was the GOAT precisely because he made HoF level players like Clyde Drexler look like peasants.

And if Mahomes continues at this pace, when his career is over he'll have proven the El Guapo of a SLEW of guys who were getting MVP consideration and a few potential HoF candidates in their own right. If he ends up getting GOAT talk, the number of bodies he leaves in his wake will be staggering.

Health permitting, Deshaun Watson won't even make the top 10 list of guys Mahomes put a stranglehold on.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I'm gonna absolutely wear this quote out over the next 10+ years, but I'll be damned if I don't just love it.

"You judge greatness by its graveyard...."

Jordan was the GOAT precisely because he made HoF level players like Clyde Drexler look like peasants.

And if Mahomes continues at this pace, when his career is over he'll have proven the El Guapo of a SLEW of guys who were getting MVP consideration and a few potential HoF candidates in their own right. If he ends up getting GOAT talk, the number of bodies he leaves in his wake will be staggering.

Health permitting, Deshaun Watson won't even make the top 10 list of guys Mahomes put a stranglehold on.

Look at some of those teams - he basically ended the Pistons in east. All of those teams out west - the Sonics, the Jazz, there were great players all over the west and none of them could beat the Bulls. Just crazy.