Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 117

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

**lewdog** · 03-25-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

I'll be there tonight, we're in 113. Flying back to KC tomorrow.

Dude, I sat in 113 too for the last game...... what row? And if you say A, I might shit myself.

I am in section 101 tonight.

BlackHelicopters · 03-25-2013, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog

Dude, I sat in 113 too for the last game...... what row? And if you say A, I might shit myself.

I am in section 101 tonight.

KCUnited · 03-25-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog

Dude, I sat in 113 too for the last game...... what row? And if you say A, I might shit myself.

I am in section 101 tonight.

We were in F, same seats tonight. I saw your pictures and they are almost identical to the ones I took. Let me know if you want grab a beer or a soda tonight, nohomo.

**lewdog** · 03-25-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

We were in F, same seats tonight. I saw your pictures and they are almost identical to the ones I took. Let me know if you want grab a beer or a soda tonight, nohomo.

I have to work tomorrow at 6:30 so likely bed right after the game.

But I will be there with my parents/girlfriend and would gladly meet you before the game to meet another Planeteer. (no homo).......

I am the best looking, short/stocky guy in the house. Can't miss me.

KCUnited · 03-25-2013, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog

I have to work tomorrow at 6:30 so likely bed right after the game.

But I will be there with my parents/girlfriend and would gladly meet you before the game to meet another Planeteer. (no homo).......

I am the best looking, short/stocky guy in the house. Can't miss me.

Word, we're leaving our house in Surprise at 5:00 am tomorrow, so I'm in the same boat. I'll keep my eyes peeled.

Back on topic, **** Getz.

**lewdog** · 03-25-2013, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Word, we're leaving our house in Surprise at 5:00 am tomorrow, so I'm in the same boat. I'll keep my eyes peeled.

Back on topic, **** Getz.

I will just come over and chant KCUnited until someone looks like they understand what some crazy asshole is saying.

And yes, Getz is a turd store. Can anyone realistically tell me if Johnson has a shot in hell at playing 2b on a consistent basis for this team?

duncan_idaho · 03-25-2013, 02:58 PM

BTW, John Lamb update from the Star recently said he has been working 87-91 in his last two starts.

I know some were concerned about his velocity loss earlier this year (I was concerned enough to keep an eye on it). He's still a tick or two off where he normally worked before the 2011 Tommy John surgery, when he was consistently working 89-92.

Progress, though.

KCUnited · 03-25-2013, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog

I will just come over and chant KCUnited until someone looks like they understand what some crazy asshole is saying.

And yes, Getz is a turd store. Can anyone realistically tell me if Johnson has a shot in hell at playing 2b on a consistent basis for this team?

Greinke tonight for LA, he's being limited to 60 pitches.

CoMoChief · 03-25-2013, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

BTW, John Lamb update from the Star recently said he has been working 87-91 in his last two starts.

I know some were concerned about his velocity loss earlier this year (I was concerned enough to keep an eye on it). He's still a tick or two off where he normally worked before the 2011 Tommy John surgery, when he was consistently working 89-92.

Progress, though.

Still faster than Bruce "Little League Fireballer" Chen

mr. tegu · 03-25-2013, 04:51 PM

If there is one thing above all others that I absolutely cannot stand about Yost its his contstant shuffling of the lineup.

duncan_idaho · 03-25-2013, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Still faster than Bruce "Little League Fireballer" Chen

And Warren Spahn. ANd Charlie Hough. And Jamie Moyer. And Mike Cuellar. And dozens of other lefthanded pitchers who got outs because they were lefthanded and threw strikes.

Chen's strikeout rate last season, the culmination of an upward trend, was league-average.

Velocity is important, but it isn't everything. If it was, Todd van Poppel and Colt Griffin would have been perennial all-stars.

**lewdog** · 03-25-2013, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Greinke tonight for LA, he's being limited to 60 pitches.

Do we boo?

Demonpenz · 03-25-2013, 05:13 PM

I wouldn't boo because grienke seems like an honest dude.

teedubya · 03-25-2013, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dtchiefs4life

Meh my White Sox almost took the division last year. Detroit doesnt have a closer. Theyre good but not untouchable

JFC. You're a Tarheel AND a Chicago White Sox fan? What the hell is wrong with you?

BlackHelicopters · 03-25-2013, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KCUnited

Greinke tonight for LA, he's being limited to 60 pitches.

Pics from both of you nohomos or GTFO.

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1740308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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