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Old 04-21-2021, 11:33 PM   #1
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Oh really? I've been at a bit of a loss as to what I should replace the Grand Cherokee with and that's one I hadn't considered.
Man, I really liked ours. It's the last full framed SUV GM made other than Tahoe/Suburban. True 4X4. Rode really smooth. Turned shorter than any car I ever drove. Nice, functional cargo space. Had the inline 6 which I wasn't thrilled about but it was never short of power when I needed it. Interior was pretty clean and tight. Wife beat it down all the worst roads and trails in the county and it held up like a champ.

We replaced it with a Traverse, that other than having more interior space (third row, the cargo space wasn't really much more) and better vents in the back for the kids, and of course less miles, wasn't as good of vehicle.

Only downside were a few of the trim pieces held dirt from the dirt roads and would run out when I washed it. Nothing deal, but needled my OCD when I washed it. And it was made in the era of GM when when they ran the doors to the top of the roof rather than leaving an "eve" or whatvever. If you hada really strong crosswind, it would make some noise on the highway. But I'm talking 50+MPH crosswind, so doesn't happen much. And if you're not on the highway it's nothing.

Maybe I just had a good one, but I had great luck with it. And my wife drove it like Andretti when she worked in Garden, and then when it became a farm truck, it got the ever loving hell beat out of it and never complained.
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Old 04-22-2021, 12:31 PM   #2
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Good luck 007. Factories were shut down for COVID and it sure ****ed up the used truck/SUV market. Hopefully cars are better.




I had an 08 TrailBlazer. Thing was Bullet Proof. I wish they still made them.



I've had family do business with Holm and had good things to say about them.

I test drove it of course super nice but got up to fifty and starts shimmy just lightly and pulls to the right I think needs alignment not big deal or just needs rotate tires to back. However I couldn't make a deal because my the dealer isn't associated with my financial institute Credit Acceptance so closest dealership that is is in Witchita and that's two hours away. So oh well no real loss.

Getting hard to find vehicles under 150000 miles to help get loans also.

I like older vehicles that you can actually work on that don't have all that electrical crap that if you change the battery out the thing goes hay wire.


I once bloodied up my knuckles on a cold ass day changing a dead battery in a 2016 car that the battery was practically under the dash and no way to get a grip on it to pull it out. WTF.
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Old 04-22-2021, 12:59 PM   #3
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I test drove it of course super nice but got up to fifty and starts shimmy just lightly and pulls to the right I think needs alignment not big deal or just needs rotate tires to back. However I couldn't make a deal because my the dealer isn't associated with my financial institute Credit Acceptance so closest dealership that is is in Witchita and that's two hours away. So oh well no real loss.

Getting hard to find vehicles under 150000 miles to help get loans also.

I like older vehicles that you can actually work on that don't have all that electrical crap that if you change the battery out the thing goes hay wire.


I once bloodied up my knuckles on a cold ass day changing a dead battery in a 2016 car that the battery was practically under the dash and no way to get a grip on it to pull it out. WTF.
I hear you man. Loud and clear.
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Old 04-21-2021, 11:46 PM   #4
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Shit, the market being what it is right now (at least in missouri) buy new, pay it off ASAP and sell it in a year or two. You might actually make money!!!!
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Old 04-22-2021, 06:23 AM   #5
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Shit, the market being what it is right now (at least in missouri) buy new, pay it off ASAP and sell it in a year or two. You might actually make money!!!!

Trying to avoid loans right now. Between the foundation problem we had to fix, the furnace and ac needing replaced asap, the water heater dying, and the 6 year old refrigerator already being repaired for a third time, I've had enough of financing.

All of that took place in a two month stretch.
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Old 04-22-2021, 03:02 PM   #6
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Trying to avoid loans right now. Between the foundation problem we had to fix, the furnace and ac needing replaced asap, the water heater dying, and the 6 year old refrigerator already being repaired for a third time, I've had enough of financing.

All of that took place in a two month stretch.
I'm refinancing my house and going to save $500 a month. Rates are really low.
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Old 04-22-2021, 03:05 PM   #7
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I'm refinancing my house and going to save $500 a month. Rates are really low.
upfront closing costs negated our savings and we are already fairly low on the interest rate already thanks to 2008.
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Old 04-22-2021, 05:21 PM   #8
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QUOTE=007;15640401]upfront closing costs negated our savings and we are already fairly low on the interest rate already thanks to 2008.[/QUOTE]
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Shit, the market being what it is right now (at least in missouri) buy new, pay it off ASAP and sell it in a year or two. You might actually make money!!!!
I marked all of my new cars at MSRP.

2 months ago i was selling them for 2000 dollar losses.

There are no more cars coming. I told my staff we are going to be watching grass grow through the cracks in the lot come end of summer.
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Old 04-25-2021, 11:21 AM   #10
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I marked all of my new cars at MSRP.

2 months ago i was selling them for 2000 dollar losses.

There are no more cars coming. I told my staff we are going to be watching grass grow through the cracks in the lot come end of summer.
So what's going on with the car market? Is it simply just a case of cheap money like the housing market is right now (low interest)?
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Old 04-25-2021, 12:16 PM   #11
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So what's going on with the car market? Is it simply just a case of cheap money like the housing market is right now (low interest)?
I think those things are certainly part of it.

I know some of the factories were shut down and new stuff wasn’t available. So then those customers moved into the low miles used market and those customers moved down and so on and so forth.

I figured demand would be more elastic. But I suppose not.
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Old 04-25-2021, 12:21 PM   #12
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So what's going on with the car market? Is it simply just a case of cheap money like the housing market is right now (low interest)?
I believe it's from the lock down finally catching up to supply. Less new cars to go around or being sold thus less used cars.
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Old 04-25-2021, 09:25 PM   #13
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So what's going on with the car market? Is it simply just a case of cheap money like the housing market is right now (low interest)?
It's a combination of things. First there was the lockdown that idled the plants. That led to less demand for components, especially chips. Between the lockdown now in the chip producers and the lack of inventory, now we're seeing plants closing again.Then there was the influx of cheap money because no one was buying which depleated the exisiting inventory.

Here's a link for you: https://www.kctv5.com/heres-why-car-...a35ee3b16.html
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Old 04-22-2021, 12:09 AM   #14
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Took me a months to find a car I liked. Didn’t rush and didn’t pin myself to anything certain except low-ish miles, super clean, and under 20k. I ended up buying an old man 2015 Toyota Avalon Touring for 17k last week. It had 52,000 on the odometer. Wasn’t set on an Avalon but it checked all my boxes. Cruises really nice.

Good luck on your search.
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